Chinese Economics Thread

ansy1968

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Stocks=/= Real Economy. Stock market is the playground of the 1% . It doesn't concern commoners.
Hi Kaeshmiri,

I think gadgecool5, has an investment and we should remind him that the long term growth prospect of his Chinese investment is very good to my estimate up to 2025. So he had nothing to fear. What so encouraging especially for us here in Asia, China will lift us all and my country export prospect is looking good indeed, down everywhere except for China and Japan. And the Vaccine will be a great addition, Indonesia is getting an initial doses, my country lost out due to our health dep't bureaucratic inaction for a testing regime likely due to US/ World bank interference( we are expecting a loan from them). :mad:
 
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manqiangrexue

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And yet Asian stocks, especially Chinese stocks are down because Trump is preparing to sanction Chinese officials over Hong Kong. It would be really better for China's economy if China had better relations with the US.
Yeah don't you mean it'd be better for America's economy to have better relations with China? Cus the Chinese economy is the last one to be worried about right now... in the world. Also, stocks don't matter to the Chinese economy; stock levels could go up and down and nowhere staying in relatively the same place for years while the Chinese economy doubles and triples in size. Meanwhile, America's inflated and propped up stock market can go up 3 fold while the economy inches upwards... hell it can even grow while the US economy shrinks!

Besides, it's a precondition to be weak to have good relations with the US so it's a catch 22 only fools chase after.
 
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AssassinsMace

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The Chinese stock market is at 3400. It's not down. One of our former members that would post more than anyone else in here use to report every time the Chinese stock market went down but not up and that was when it was considered down. If it went like he posted only, the Chinese stock market would be in negative territory. It never went below 2500 at that time. I wouldn't call 3400 down.
 

hashtagpls

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It's been the greatest desire of westerners to control China.
The problem with the West- particularly the elites of the West- is that because they've had a taste of colonising China during the Century of Humiliation and indeed built their entire industrial economy off exploiting China (Harvard et al was funded with opium money), that they never got over it and pine for being able to return to a time when they could exploit China for her wealth, riches and people. In a way this desire to dominate China alleviates their fear of themselves being dominated by China.
Turning China into another Japan or Taiwan has been the driving aim of the anglo american elite since Kissinger and Nixon's detente with China. If China surrendered to the Anglo American power structure, we could well enter another dark age since the anglo american power structure are still led by greedy imbeciles who lack foresight, and are unable to even use the tools that they seek to steal from Chinese civilisation.
Take for eg the fact that they got all of Japan's tech for free after the Plaza accords; what did they do with it? It made them a lot of money after the dotcom bubble and the decades of Asia subsidising american spending via Treasury purchases, and probably bought them tech dominance for another 30 years but even then, american innovation went out the window as we saw with the US unable to compete with Huawei's 5G and quantum tech- because american intelligence is simply unable to keep up with Chinese intelligence.
And the Anglo american power structure knows it, hence why there's a lot of talk about "nuking China" and mass propaganda to dehumanise Chinese people.
Why won’t any politician stand up and say this? Probably because no-one will believe it’s possible. A political scientist of my acquaintance, Clifford Angell Bates, posted this comment on my recent report of Chinese breakthroughs in 5G broadband: “I think we need to take John von Neumann’s recommendation that he gave regarding what should be done to [the] Soviets,” that is, a preemptive nuclear attack. Why not just improve America and compete with China? I posted back.

Prof. Bates replied: “Sorry… given the declining IQ of the American population due to dysgenetic behavior of large parts of the American population and the failure of our schools to educate the young to produce the necessary skillset to pull it off, any thought of trying to repeat what Reagan was able to do is very, very unlikely. The odds of being able to reform our education system are as unlikely [as] someone winning [the lottery] Powerball – heck no, winning 10 Powerballs. Why so low? Because of the political interests that make the public education system the clusterf*** it is. Also, China unlike the Soviet Union is wholly integrated into the global economic system and is working at the same level as we are. No, we f*** up in 1988-89 when [we] did not clamp down and cutting them off… Now we have the devil to pay… I prefer not to be ruled by them… so I think what Neumann recommends needs to be taken seriously if one wishes not to face the dismal future of slavery under a Chinese hegemonic despotism.”
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Gatekeeper

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It's been the greatest desire of westerners to control China.
The problem with the West- particularly the elites of the West- is that because they've had a taste of colonising China during the Century of Humiliation and indeed built their entire industrial economy off exploiting China (Harvard et al was funded with opium money), that they never got over it and pine for being able to return to a time when they could exploit China for her wealth, riches and people. In a way this desire to dominate China alleviates their fear of themselves being dominated by China.
Turning China into another Japan or Taiwan has been the driving aim of the anglo american elite since Kissinger and Nixon's detente with China. If China surrendered to the Anglo American power structure, we could well enter another dark age since the anglo american power structure are still led by greedy imbeciles who lack foresight, and are unable to even use the tools that they seek to steal from Chinese civilisation.
Take for eg the fact that they got all of Japan's tech for free after the Plaza accords; what did they do with it? It made them a lot of money after the dotcom bubble and the decades of Asia subsidising american spending via Treasury purchases, and probably bought them tech dominance for another 30 years but even then, american innovation went out the window as we saw with the US unable to compete with Huawei's 5G and quantum tech- because american intelligence is simply unable to keep up with Chinese intelligence.
And the Anglo american power structure knows it, hence why there's a lot of talk about "nuking China" and mass propaganda to dehumanise Chinese people.

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Interesting read. But very bias right to the end. It's all China's fault. Us is great. Should have killed China off in 1989. Blah blah blah. The author lives in a "what should be type of world" while the rest of lives in the real world.
 

AssassinsMace

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Democracies have a weakness on trade where all the attention can go to like soy famers in the US when they're only a slither of the population. That slither is enough to turn the balance over one way or the other as we've seen the US Presidential election. The farmers stuck with Trump but other smaller constituencies played a role. You can see how another country exploit it.
 

NiuBiDaRen

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Since when is stock market the barometer of real economy. There is disconnect between wall street and real economy .Wall street might be doing well but with 50 million American unemployed and 7 million will go hunger this winter with foodline stretching to kilometer common in big cities. I won't call American economy is doing great. NObody in china is going hungry there is no food line in China right now No mass demonstration


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That's not possible, bread lines don't happen under capitalism!
 
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