China's strategy in Korean peninsula

AndrewS

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I reckon this article is accurate.

By all accounts, Xi Jinping believes that the Communist Party can lead China to a glorious and prosperous future. Furthermore he is widely regarded as Mr Clean and therefore detests corruption/incompetence.

On both these points, Fatty Kim doesn't score well.

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They certainly don't want a solution where the United States and
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have much more influence on the peninsula and, lo and behold, the United States is basically there at China's back door."
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AssassinsMace

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This reminds me of how the Dalai Lama negotiates his return to Tibet. When talks fail, it's put out that China rejects the Dalai Lama's return. Then why would China negotiate at all if that were the case? That propaganda works a lot better than the truth which what's the cause of talks ending in failure is the Tibetan side wants essentially to claim 1/3rd of China to be under the Tibetan Autonomous Region. The US wants to give nothing to China in exchange for cooperation on North Korea. They don't say that publicly because they want people to believe that it's China that's being uncooperative and unrealistic. If it's that important to the US, they will give something to China. If they don't, then North Korea is not that serious of a threat to the US. Trump says he's the greatest negotiator in the world. Well if his tactic is to give nothing in return for cooperation, then he's no different from the previous administrations that he's attacked regarding North Korea that didn't offer to give anything in exchange either. He's just promising more violence.
 
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kurutoga

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A few weeks ago, the Chinese FM was quoted saying THAAD was the most important issue and must be removed. Adding military pressure to SK was discussed recently in some editorials from China.

US does exactly the same trying to add GMD in Eastern Europe once they find an excuse. I also believe THAAD in SK affects Russia as well.

To summarize I do not think Chinese government is treating this lightly. Regardless how effective THAAD as a interceptor or the radar is used as early warning, it was already characterized by the Chinese government as "destabilizing regional nuclear balance" etc etc. You can read similar lines in many news releases.

These governments have vast funding in research and analysis. THAAD deployment was prepared for a long time. S Korean government figure out every scenario and prepared for all types of outcomes including facing Chinese pressure. Yet they decided to go ahead with it. So, the task in front of Chinese government is not easy but it looks they are willing to fight for it.
 
the part of

Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hua Chunying's Regular Press Conference on August 31, 2017
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relevant here:

Q: There is report that the US this afternoon has flown some fighter jets and bomber strikers over the Korean Peninsula that ended the joint exercise with the ROK's air forces. What influence will have on the whole situation?

A: In recent days, you have all been so closely following the situation on the Korean Peninsula where the smell of gunpowder is palpable. We have stressed on multiple occasions that we hope various parties can remain restrained and rational and refrain from actions that may ratchet up the tension and pour fuel on the fire. We hope various parties can seriously consider and actively accept China's suspension-for-suspension proposal, and make joint efforts to bring the situation on the Korean Peninsula back to the right track of peaceful settlement through dialogue.

Q: According to reports, the US, Japan and the UK plan to push for sanctions in a new resolution of the Security Council, which will impose oil embargo on and restrict the overseas labor of the DPRK. What's your comment on that?

A: These days, we have repeatedly stated China's opinion on the current situation on the Korean Peninsula and its proposal for the way out the predicament. I would like to stress the following:

First, we maintain that all sanction measures should be implemented within the framework of the UN Security Council and in accordance with its relevant resolutions. We are firmly opposed to the so-called "long-arm jurisdiction" by any country over other countries' enterprises and individuals in accordance with its domestic law and outside the framework of the UN Security Council.

Second, practice has proven that pressure and sanction alone can in no way solve the problem fundamentally. Both the previous Security Council resolutions and the Security Council's presidential statement yesterday have shown that the commitment to peaceful settlement of the Korean Peninsula issue through political and diplomatic means best serves the interests of various parties and it is the shared aspiration of the international community.

Third, the Korean Peninsula issue is intricate and complex, and its core and nature are the serious lack of mutual trust between the DPRK and the US, and the DPRK and the ROK, which are the parties directly concerned. Only by addressing the legitimate security concerns of various parties through dialogue in a balanced way can we find the final peaceful solution to the Korean Peninsula issue. To this end, China puts forward the "suspension for suspension" proposal and the dual-track approach. The former is aimed to find a breakthrough for the resumption of dialogue and negotiation, and the latter to achieve the long-term peace and stability of the Korean Peninsula and the region.

Fourth, the Security Council's resolutions should be followed through on comprehensively and completely. Regrettably, certain countries selectively ignore the request for promoting dialogue in the relevant Security Council resolutions and only kept stressing pressure and sanction. They put a drag on and secretly obstruct China and the relevant parties' efforts for peaceful settlement of the issue through dialogue and even stab in their back. Yet whenever the situation on the Korean Peninsula grows tense, they just once again make irresponsible remarks and shirk their responsibility. These words and deeds are destructive rather than constructive to the efforts for peacefully resolving the Korean Peninsula issue.

Fifth, the current tense situation on the Korean Peninsula is neither a screenplay nor a computer game, but unmistakably an objective reality and a serious major issue that immediately bears on the security of the people of the DPRK and the ROK and the peace and stability of the whole region. We hope various parties can make rational decision and wise choice that are truly responsible for their own people and the regional peace and stability.
 
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China, Russia warn DPRK issue as serious as US travel ban kicks off
Updated 2017-09-01 15:52 GMT+8
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China has said that the situation on the Korean Peninsula is serious and “not a computer game” as a ban on travel to the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK) for US citizens came into force Friday.

Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying made the comments at a press briefing as Japan pushed the US for new sanctions against the DPRK.

“It was regrettable that some countries only applied sanctions and overlooked the United Nations Security Council resolution’s requirements for dialogue,” she said.

The statement came as the last Americans left the embattled east Asian nation with the US travel ban taking effect on Friday even as Russia called on Washington not to use force amid heightened tensions following Pyongyang’s latest missile test.

Americans leave Pyongyang

One of the last flights out of Pyongyang on Thursday had a number of Americans on board and was headed for Beijing, according to media reports.

Nicholas Burkhead was among the last American tourists to leave the DPRK, aboard that Air Koryo flight after visiting Pyongyang and Kaesong, a city near the heavily armed border with South Korea.

“I was surprised at how friendly everyone was,” Burkhead was quoted as saying by Reuters. “It was very relaxing — beautiful scenery and they fed us very well in the restaurants there, but the exchange rate wasn’t too good for the local won,” he said.

The flight from the DPRK capital also had on board American aid workers who hoped they would return some day to continue their humanitarian work, reported the Associated Press.

Heidi Linton, director of Christian Friends of Korea, who has been working in DPRK for over two decades, said she worried about the people her aid group helped, if her exemption was not granted soon.

“We started a hepatitis B program and we have 705 patients that have been started on life-saving medicine, that if they go off that medicine then their lives are in danger,” she was quoted as saying in a Reuters report.

The United States in July announced a ban on American citizens from traveling to DPRK, effective September 1. The move has a provision for journalists and aid workers to apply for exemptions from the ban. However, it is not yet clear whether any American has requested, or been granted, such an exemption.

Also, the US state department on Thursday night was unable to give an estimate on the number of Americans still inside the DPRK, Reuters reported.

DPRK state media has described the ban as a “sordid” attempt to limit human exchanges.

Pyongyang is currently holding two Korean-American academics and a missionary, as well as three South Korean nationals who were doing missionary work, according to the New York Post.

This month, the country released a Canadian pastor who had been imprisoned there for more than two years, the Post reported.

A day before the travel ban came into force, the US conducted another round of military drills with allies South Korea and Japan on Thursday, prompting a strong response from Russia and China.

US heavy bombers and stealth jet fighters delivered a show of force directed at the DPRK in a live-fire drill on Thursday, two days after Pyongyang’s test launch of a ballistic missile that flew over Japan, AFP reported.

“Two B-1B ‘Lancer’ bombers from Guam and four F-35B stealth jet fighters from the Marine Corps' Iwakuni airbase in Japan joined four ROK jet fighters and two from Japan in the exercise over Japanese and ROK air space,” the report said quoting US military officials said.

“US and ROK aircraft dropped live munitions onto the Pilseung shooting range in Gangwon province, some 150 kilometres south of the Demilitarized Zone dividing the two Koreas,” the report added.

“Counterproductive and dangerous” says Russia

Other global powers and nations in the region have expressed concern over the escalation in tensions between the DPRK and the US and its allies.

Late on Wednesday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov warned the US against new sanctions, saying such a move could be "counterproductive and dangerous," Fox News reported.

In a phone call with US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Lavrov stressed Russia believed imposing more sanctions to pressure Pyongyang to end its missile program was "counterproductive and dangerous," the report said.

Lavrov also "underscored...the need to refrain from any military steps that could have unpredictable consequences," the foreign ministry in Moscow said.

Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova urged peace talks, saying that "at the moment only Russia and China have put forward a realistic initiative".

"Once again we call all the involved sides to urgently start establishing dialogue without preconditions, based on the proposals on the Russian and Chinese road map," Zakharova said.

Meanwhile, Russian President Vladimir Putin warned the US and its allies against going down a “dead-end road” and called for talks to resolve the issue.

"Russia believes that the policy of putting pressure on Pyongyang to stop its nuclear missile program is misguided and futile," Putin said in an article published ahead of the BRICS summit.

"The region's problems should only be settled through a direct dialogue of all the parties concerned without any preconditions. Provocations, pressure and militarist and insulting rhetoric are a dead-end road," he added.

Spain orders DPRK to reduce embassy staff

In a related development on Thursday, Spain told the DPRK embassy in Madrid to reduce its staff in the country in protest against Pyongyang's repeated missile launches and nuclear weapons tests.

The DPRK's nuclear and ballistic missile programes "create a serious threat to peace in the region and to global security," the Spanish foreign ministry said in a statement.

"The embassy of the DPRK had been warned by the foreign ministry that the continuation of these actions would have consequences on bilateral relations," it added.

"Today the DPRK ambassador has been summoned and the position of the Spanish government has been reiterated and he was informed of the decision to reduce the number of diplomatic staff at his representation in Madrid."

The DPRK embassy, which opened in 2014, is staffed by an ambassador and two diplomats, a foreign ministry spokeswoman said. "One of the two diplomats will have to leave by September 30," she said.

(With inputs from agencies)
 

Jiang ZeminFanboy

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Could you tell me how many THAAD launcher trucks are in SK right now and where are located? I heard two ?

Is this picture correct ? I heard that THAAD is mobile so it is possible (for example) to move it closer to the East Sea in case of intercepting Kim missiles at the Sea?
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kurutoga

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Could you tell me how many THAAD launcher trucks are in SK right now and where are located? I heard two ?

Is this picture correct ? I heard that THAAD is mobile so it is possible (for example) to move it closer to the East Sea in case of intercepting Kim missiles at the Sea?

Yes it is quite accurate. It is possible to move THAAD although we are still talking about US military equipment on foreign soil (outside of military base) so there is political significance if they move the spot.
 

AndrewS

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