China's strategy in Korean peninsula

Orthan

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South Korean news outlet chosun.com released this report which mentions that china has deployed 150.000 troops on the border with NK. Has anyone heard anything else about it?

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Blackstone

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South Korean news outlet chosun.com released this report which mentions that china has deployed 150.000 troops on the border with NK. Has anyone heard anything else about it?

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Sauce for the goose; something for the Blue House to consider in its relation with the White House.
 

N00813

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South Korean news outlet chosun.com released this report which mentions that china has deployed 150.000 troops on the border with NK. Has anyone heard anything else about it?

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The Chinese side has denied these reports:
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"Q: First, the rising likelihood of the six nuclear test by the DPRK coupled with the US dispatch of an aircraft carrier strike group to waters close to the ROK has made the situation on the Peninsula even more intense. What’s China’s comment? Second, it is reported that to prepare for potential emergencies in the DPRK, an additional 150,000 troops were deployed to China’s border with the DPRK. Can you confirm that?

A: About your first question, China has been closely following the developments of the situation on the Korean Peninsula. We believe that, given the current situation, all relevant parties should exercise restraint and avoid activities that may escalate the tension.

As for the second question, I am not aware of that. There were similar reports by the Yonhap News Agency in the past, which were proved groundless and false in the end. I’m wondering where you got this information."
 

SinoSoldier

Colonel
It's not a big deal if the Chinese deploy foot soldiers or even some armor, as it could simply signal wariness in light of a potential refugee crisis on a scale unseen before on the planet or simply a gesture. When people should start worrying is if they decide to deploy combat aircraft like the J-16 or J-10B to the NK border.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
It's not a big deal if the Chinese deploy foot soldiers or even some armor, as it could simply signal wariness in light of a potential refugee crisis on a scale unseen before on the planet or simply a gesture. When people should start worrying is if they decide to deploy combat aircraft like the J-16 or J-10B to the NK border.

Combat aircraft don't need to deploy to the boarder, nor would you really want to, as that just puts there where the enemy can hit them on the ground.

Ground troops takes the longest to deploy, so are generally deployed first.

Combat aircraft could fly combat missions over Korean from most Chinese air bases in northeastern China, so would not be needing the symbolic move of deploying to air bases slightly closer to the boarder.

I would also not take the 'denial' to the bank. It is a very 'soft' denial, just saying he was not aware of the deployment.

That does not rule out the possibility of a deployment, as it won't be the first time the Chinese MoD has not kept the Foreign Ministry timely updated about military deployments.

Whether that's just clever use of plausible deniability or a sign of the low status of the Chinese foreign ministry in key national security decisions is a very different question.

The ground troops could just be a routine deployment or a contingency insurance in case Trump gets trigger happy after alol the praise he got domestically for bombing Syria.

It's the PLAN I would watch as a litmus test for if things are really getting dangerous.

If the PLAN North Sea Fleet start to leave port in force, that's when you should really be worried.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Someone a while ago in here I think posted a cell phone video from a person driving in along a highway in Northeast China where it was full of military vehicles parked on the side of the highway supposedly heading for the border.
 

mr.bean

Junior Member
i think it's safe to say China has to prepare for anything, even the worst of the worst scenarios. you got a lunatic fat boy in N.Korea and a batshit crazy guy like Trump in the White House. god forbid Trump is going to pull a ''Syria'' stunt on fat boy with his cruise missiles and actually start a full fledge war.
 

Orthan

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daily caller news article. The US DoD doesnt have evidence of significant troop movements in the china-NK border.

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However, there is another story about an article in the global times.

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Has anyone heard of this before?
 

advill

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My personal view is President Xi is a wise (Confucius cum Sun Tzu - like) Leader who usually takes the "Owlish" approaches to problems. He knows what is good for the world - and for China, US and Asia, including trying to solve the very serious problems that have arisen with North Korea's serious belligerency. The only sensible way to solve the Korean Peninsular dilemma is to NEGOTIATE as suggested by President Xi - but this time it must be really serious with solutions/datelines for whatever is agreed. Lies, BS cannot be tolerated - China, US, hopefully Russia must be the guarantors of Peace after give & take (hopefully win-win solutions) with officially binding outcomes. The alternatives are very serious hostilities or even War involving several parties. Hawkish posturing will only raise temperatures & not solve the problems. No dovish stances or ineffective peaceniks involvement; OR the show of unpredictably as we all have observed by current POTUS who hopefully now appears to be dependent on his more sensible/astute Secretaries of State, Defence & Advisors. "We Ji" Crisis & Opportunity - We should believe in this Chinese sayings.
 

Blackstone

Brigadier
Former UN Ambassador, John Bolton, said we should "take out" Kim Jong-un and cause the regime to collapse. What a bad idea. I say that because even without the nukes, the Korean People's Army has thousands of artillery pieces within range of Seoul and surrounding area (~20 million people), capable of firing conventional, chemical, and even biological munitions. And then we have the estimated 10 to 20 nukes.

What I want to know from neocons like Bolton is under what circumstances would South Korea allow us to unilaterally restart the Korean War that might escalate into WW3. What's their plan to get support from Americans and allies?

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Former Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton believes the only way to denuclearize North Korea is to put an end to Kim Jong-Un’s regime all together.

“I don’t think there is any point in negotiating with the North Koreans,” Bolton said Tuesday on Fox News.

“On at least four occasions in the past 25 years, they have committed publicly to give up their nuclear weapons in exchange for benefits that were promised to them,” the former ambassador said of North Korea. “In every case they have violated their commitment, typically before the ink was dry on it.”

North Korea conducted its fifth nuclear test in September. The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday that North Korea appears to be planning a sixth nuclear test on Saturday, the anniversary of the country’s founding.

In an interview Sunday with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said the administration’s top objective in the region is a denuclearized Korean peninsula, not the removal of Jong-Un.

“In terms of North Korea, we have been very clear that our objective is a denuclearized Korean peninsula. We have no objective to change the regime in North Korea, that is not our objective,” said Tillerson.

Bolton has little faith the Trump administration will be able to achieve its goal of a denuclearized Korean peninsula without first eliminating Kim Jong-Un’s regime.

“They aren’t going to voluntarily give up their nuclear weapons program, they’re not going to voluntarily give up their ballistic missile program,” the former U.N. ambassador said.

“I think there is only one alternative here, and that’s to put enough pressure on them to have the regime collapse,” Bolton said. “The way to end North Korea’s nuclear weapons program is to end North Korea, I think, through reunification of the peninsula.”

Bolton believes there is a way to achieve a denuclearized Korea through diplomatic means, but it would require the buy-in of China.

“That’s something we should be talking to the Chinese about,” Bolton added. “It will be hard for the Chinese to accept, but they’re the ones who have said for many years they don’t want a nuclear North Korea.”

President Donald Trump appears to be making an effort to convince China to join in efforts to solve the “North Korean problem.” In a tweet Tuesday, the president promised more a favorable trade deal for China if it joins ranks with the U.S. against North Korea.

And according to Tillerson, China is beginning to recognize the threat a nuclear North Korea poses.

“I think there’s a shared view and no disagreement as to how dangerous the situation has become. And I think even China is beginning to recognize that this presents a threat to … China’s interests as well,” the secretary of state said Sunday on CBS’ Face the Nation.
 
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