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China's Space Program News Thread
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Let's not derail the thread.
Well the space race is on, whether the US is ready or not. Of course, China is going at it’s own pace. I wonder if Biden will respond with a big NASA bill, problem is: would it even be effective?
I love how China always leaves infrastructure behind as a secondary objective of many missions:
The mars mission leaves an orbiter, a ground station and UGV/UAV’s behind.
The main detector of the asteroid sample return will probably end of visiting other celestial bodies, or end up being part of some colossal radio network for example.
One they have solved the issues of these missions, I am pretty sure there will be many follow ups, if all it costs is 2 LM5’s and standardized equipment then this is another place that China can transform costs by scaling up fast.
The moon sample returns generated so much scientific interest they could have had 10 or 50 times more scientific collaborations if they had more samples, so I can see first a justifiable scientific need for multiple missions but also this could be combined with building a GPS/EO/6G satellite constellation system with the orbiters as well as large scale ground exploration with the dogs etc, then it is really a good use of money and power.
If China puts a constellation of orbiters in Mars in this way then it is normalizing two way transport between mars and earth, with the first caro of this new logistics route expected for delivery in just 2031. It could be like the China-Europe trains!
Who knows what the dogs will find? whatever it is, samples can probably be returned to labs earth with a lot of automation.
Likewise with the asteroid and comet sample returns, if China builds a network of these asteroid/comet hunting space craft in this method, then it normalizes space mining. That network could be used to provide communications and navigation in the asteroid belt, while each mission returns priceless samples.
I don’t know how big these constellation’s would have to be, 24 is a number that comes up a lot, so that’s 48 LM5 launches for each constellation (just for discussions sake). How fast could they do that? If they can monetize it, and promise future revenue, they can even finance it, and incentive that fast construction and follow up development.
Imagine if a lab in the UAE, or a mining company in Brazil can order a sample from a region of mars and have it delivered in a couple of years. That is worth a lot of money; future revenue streams, which can finance PPP loans today, and that is the core of Chinas new development model and I am sure it will be applied tevery major piece of infrastructure like this.
LM9 would be able to contribute as well, but there isn’t a dependency on it. LM9’s will be in short supply to start, and it gives the commercial space sector an achievable target in the years ahead: beat the LM5.
It’s pretty much fantasy of course, but I think it shows a semi-plausible scenario to that space and mars mining future many dream about, and the cost just doesn’t seem that much to bear.
The moon sample returns generated so much scientific interest they could have had 10 or 50 times more scientific collaborations if they had more samples, so I can see first a justifiable scientific need for multiple missions but also this could be combined with building a GPS/EO/6G satellite constellation system with the orbiters as well as large scale ground exploration with the dogs etc, then it is really a good use of money and power.
If China puts a constellation of orbiters in Mars in this way then it is normalizing two way transport between mars and earth, with the first caro of this new logistics route expected for delivery in just 2031. It could be like the China-Europe trains!
Who knows what the dogs will find? whatever it is, samples can probably be returned to labs earth with a lot of automation.
Likewise with the asteroid and comet sample returns, if China builds a network of these asteroid/comet hunting space craft in this method, then it normalizes space mining. That network could be used to provide communications and navigation in the asteroid belt, while each mission returns priceless samples.
I don’t know how big these constellation’s would have to be, 24 is a number that comes up a lot, so that’s 48 LM5 launches for each constellation (just for discussions sake). How fast could they do that? If they can monetize it, and promise future revenue, they can even finance it, and incentive that fast construction and follow up development.
Imagine if a lab in the UAE, or a mining company in Brazil can order a sample from a region of mars and have it delivered in a couple of years. That is worth a lot of money; future revenue streams, which can finance PPP loans today, and that is the core of Chinas new development model and I am sure it will be applied tevery major piece of infrastructure like this.
LM9 would be able to contribute as well, but there isn’t a dependency on it. LM9’s will be in short supply to start, and it gives the commercial space sector an achievable target in the years ahead: beat the LM5.
It’s pretty much fantasy of course, but I think it shows a semi-plausible scenario to that space and mars mining future many dream about, and the cost just doesn’t seem that much to bear.
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Is it possible to counter this kinetically?
escobar
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Just task Sj-21 to take this US Spy sat and throw it into a “graveyard” orbit.
Of course it will. The most splendid golden age of the aerospace history of human being was the age when the United States and the Soviet Union competed for the access to the space.
The world wasn't getting better even when the two great powers stopped the money burning space competition in the late 1980s when the Soviet colossus fell.
The head of the China Meteorological Administration, Zhuang Guotai announced that the data produced by the country's two Fengyun series meteorological satellites will be shared with global users.
He made the remarks at the 75th session of the Executive Council of World Meteorological Organization on Monday.
Fengyun 3E and Fengyun 4B are used to help monitor and forecast weather, as well as prevent and mitigate disasters.
Fengyun 4B, which launched in June last year, can capture images of a 250-meter resolution to better aid in monitoring weather.
Fengyun 3E, the world's first civilian early morning orbit weather satellite, which launched a month later in July last year, was designed to improve global weather forecasting by filling in the gap in data at specific times of the day, and assist in ensuring 100 percent global data coverage every six hours.
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