China's SCS Strategy Thread

CMP

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Philippines war might be the "safe" bet for US.

Trying to claim parts of China is too dangerous and too ambitious. There has never been a case of a nuclear armed superpower invading another one.

It never made much sense to me that US, which has historically been scared of overtly attacking large and especially well connected countries, would do such a move such as actually using ROC separatists as an excuse to invade China.

But the current Philippines is in no shape to take in China, not even with full US involvement. Not only do they utterly lack weapons and tech, but morale wise, they have no real reason to want war either. It would be a very long term project for US.
The current president is a total puppet to the US. He inquired with China about switching patronage, but China turned him down because he has nothing to offer. Regardless whether it's 4 more bases or 8 more bases, it's an irrelevant number in the face of overwhelming Chinese missile arsenals.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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U.S. Marines with 3rd landing support battalion with their fellow enthusiastic vassals/allies eager to conduct maritime training in preparation for Balikatan (Shoulder to Shoulder) exercise. Filipinos have forgotten their history from the brutality of the Americans as well as their betrayal during the Spanish-American War, not to mention "setting them free" as an independent country by Truman back in 1946 when the Philippines actually needed all the help and assistance it can get since Manila (the capital city) was the 2nd most bombed place in WWII. What a tragedy.

 

abc123

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The current president is a total puppet to the US. He inquired with China about switching patronage, but China turned him down because he has nothing to offer. Regardless whether it's 4 more bases or 8 more bases, it's an irrelevant number in the face of overwhelming Chinese missile arsenals.
So, why would the Americans bother with such irrelevant thing?
 

Bellum_Romanum

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So, why would the Americans bother with such irrelevant thing?
You should try and answer that question yourself, since your opinion and outlook regarding this issue is an aberration or goes against the grain from the majority of members here and from the opinions of American security analysts that aren't delusional with America rules, America # 1 sloganeering.

The most intensive fighting the Philippine Military was involved with most recently was the insurrection/rebel/separatists/terrorists operations in Marawi which is located in the southern islands of the Philippines. In that operation, Army, Airforce, and Navy of the Philippine Military were involved in trying to quell of ragtag, irregular forces composed of more or less 500 fighters which were able to withstand the combined assault of the Phil military for 5 long months. Then President Duterte did not hesitate to suspend habeas corpus, imposed martial law in all of Mindanao to ensure the military operations against the terrorist rebels were to succeed operationally with extreme prejudice.

Then read the AFTER ACTION REPORT of that battle and come back to us if you still think that Philippine military has the pre-requisite, or even the sufficient amount of civilian-military fusion, civilian-military infrastructures, military training, military doctrine, military know-how and equipment to be even come close to being SUFFICIENT to make any iota of difference against any potential war with CHINA'S PLA/PLAAF/PLAN/PLGAF.
 

PhSt

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The current situation concerning the new US bases is one of the main reasons why I proposed a while back for China to exponentially increase Chinese immigration into the Philippines, when there is enough Chinese diaspora in the Philippines, they will have a bigger influence in Philippine politics, and because of their affinity to Chinese identity, they can lobby the government to keep at least a neutral position in matters concerning Chinese and US rivalry in the region. The Chinese community in the Philippines already control a huge chunk of the country's business and finance industry, imagine if the Chinese population in the country is even bigger; they will surely have an enormous influence in politics as well.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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The current situation concerning the new US bases is one of the main reasons why I proposed a while back for China to exponentially increase Chinese immigration into the Philippines, when there is enough Chinese diaspora in the Philippines, they will have a bigger influence in Philippine politics, and because of their affinity to Chinese identity, they can lobby the government to keep at least a neutral position in matters concerning Chinese and US rivalry in the region. The Chinese community in the Philippines already control a huge chunk of the country's business and finance industry, imagine if the Chinese population in the country is even bigger; they will surely have an enormous influence in politics as well.
This doesn't work because a huge chunk of those who go are the self haters. Look up Lily Tang Williams as an example.
 

ansy1968

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The current situation concerning the new US bases is one of the main reasons why I proposed a while back for China to exponentially increase Chinese immigration into the Philippines, when there is enough Chinese diaspora in the Philippines, they will have a bigger influence in Philippine politics, and because of their affinity to Chinese identity, they can lobby the government to keep at least a neutral position in matters concerning Chinese and US rivalry in the region. The Chinese community in the Philippines already control a huge chunk of the country's business and finance industry, imagine if the Chinese population in the country is even bigger; they will surely have an enormous influence in politics as well.
That's the problem bro those Chinese diaspora can't compete, the Chinese mestizo want to hold on to power, by enacting law and funding politicians so they can have full economic control just look at our constitution the 60/40 foreign investment rule gave them enormous leverage against foreign firms, so to do business you need a JV with them thus inhibiting competition.

The only way for the Philippines to progress is very simple, implement a genuine Land Reform program, in this way the landed Gentry elites will be forced to invest in productive industry instead on speculative real estate and financial services.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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This doesn't work because a huge chunk of those who go are the self haters. Look up Lily Tang Williams as an example.
She's an American c..t and she's just using her ethnic background as a shield to welcome anti-China racists to say they're not racist since they support a Chinese hating ethnic Chinese-American. That however does not apply the same way with respect to the Philippines. The social dynamics and relationships with respect to that country's social hierarchy towards Filipino of Chinese descent is quite positive since some of the most successful businesses in that country are from the ethnic Chinese minority like Henry Sy of the Mall of Asia, SM mega malls, Lucio Tan of PAL and other notable luminaries like @ansy1968 who can also provide additional context and on the ground reporting on this situation. I could be really way off with respect to this assessment which am more than happy to be corrected.
 
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