China's SCS Strategy Thread

ansy1968

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I'm also big fan of pepe wish he did more English podcasts.

Micheal Hudson together with Mark blyth and David Graeber made more interested in economic history and a more Marxist view on macro economics.
@BlackWindMnt ,

Sorry bro, never heard the 3 of them until now with Michael Hudson, do you have any literature or any article relating to their work, I'm interested to learn more. :)
 

BlackWindMnt

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@BlackWindMnt ,

Sorry bro, never heard the 3 of them until now with Michael Hudson, do you have any literature or any article relating to their work, I'm interested to learn more. :)
I started reading Micheal Hudson and David Graeber because of the debt melt down in the west regarding the lock downs.

Micheal Hudson I have read like 80% of his "and forgive them their debts" book and talks about economic history how these modern financial concepts were already in use in ancient Babylon etc. Life took over so I put aside the book and haven't picked it up again.

David Graber's "debt the first 5000 years" talks about economic history from a anthropological lens. Talks about the potential cultural origin of debt and how money was possible under a state regime. It's the current book I'm reading I'm like halfway through. You might also know the late David graeber from "my bullshit job" internet thing from a couple of years ago, sadly he died last year.

Mark blyth I know him more from the podcast he does on YouTube.

But to be fair I'm not in any means knowledgeable about economics to be able to filter what is right or wrong. I'm just open minded to read things.
 

ansy1968

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I started reading Micheal Hudson and David Graeber because of the debt melt down in the west regarding the lock downs.

Micheal Hudson I have read like 80% of his "and forgive them their debts" book and talks about economic history how these modern financial concepts were already in use in ancient Babylon etc. Life took over so I put aside the book and haven't picked it up again.

David Graber's "debt the first 5000 years" talks about economic history from a anthropological lens. Talks about the potential cultural origin of debt and how money was possible under a state regime. It's the current book I'm reading I'm like halfway through. You might also know the late David graeber from "my bullshit job" internet thing from a couple of years ago, sadly he died last year.

Mark blyth I know him more from the podcast he does on YouTube.

But to be fair I'm not in any means knowledgeable about economics to be able to filter what is right or wrong. I'm just open minded to read things.
@BlackWindMnt

Thanks bro will search google and hope we can have a discussion ;)
 

Hendrik_2000

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About time they pass this law authorizing coast guard to open fire if the need arise
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China authorises coast guard to fire on foreign vessels if needed​

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BEIJING (Reuters) - China passed a law on Friday that for the first time explicitly allows its coast guard to fire on foreign vessels, a move that could make the contested waters around China more choppy.
China has maritime sovereignty disputes with Japan in the East China Sea and with several Southeast Asian countries in the South China Sea. It has sent its coast guard to chase away fishing vessels from other countries, sometimes resulting in the sinking of these vessels.
China’s top legislative body, the National People’s Congress standing committee, passed the Coast Guard Law on Friday, according to state media reports.
According to draft wording in the bill published earlier, the coast guard is allowed to use “all necessary means” to stop or prevent threats from foreign vessels.

The bill specifies the circumstances under which different kind of weapons - hand-held, ship borne or airborne - can be used.
The bill allows coast guard personnel to demolish other countries’ structures built on Chinese-claimed reefs and to board and inspect foreign vessels in waters claimed by China.
The bill also empowers the coastguard to create temporary exclusion zones “as needed” to stop other vessels and personnel from entering.
Responding to concerns, Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said on Friday that the law is in line with international practices.

The first article of the bill explains that the law is needed to safeguard China’s sovereignty, security and maritime rights.
This law comes seven years after China merged several civilian maritime law-enforcement agencies to form a coast guard bureau.
After the bureau came under the command of the People’s Armed Police in 2018, it became a proper branch of the military forces.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Interesting read from J Michael Damn as to the purpose of building SCS fortress islet is to gain information superiority
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,” War on the Rocks, 17 March 2020.

Imagine entering a dark room. You can neither see nor hear, but your adversary can see and hear everything. Your opponent lives in the room and knows its every contour. For you, there are only a few ways in … or out. You may believe that you have the edge in technology and training. Allies and partners offer their support. But in the confines of the room, you cannot determine where to point your weapons and you are unable to communicate with your friends. In the dark, your foe watches and waits, preparing to pick off your team one-by-one from unexpected directions. If you reveal your position, or call for help, those in the shadows will hear.

This is the nightmare that U.S. military planners face in the South China Sea.

China’s Spratly Island outposts’ offer Beijing decisive information superiority against any challenger in the South China Sea. Their primary purpose is not military power projection and the deployment of weapons, but information power. The Chinese bases’ main contribution is to facilitate substantial command, control, communications, computers, intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance capabilities in the South China Sea.


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notwithstanding, the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) behaves as if the militarized island-reefs are within Chinese territory. The outposts have developed into hardened military bases that have given the Chinese de facto control of what Beijing regards as its waters. Similar to military bases found on the mainland, the South China Sea outposts are integrated into a larger Chinese joint force system-of-systems that supports evolving PLA strategies. … … …

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ansy1968

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Contentious cruising: China's Paracel Islands tourism is about more than travel​


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Sign me up, @ansy1968. I wonder if it's possible to cruise and visit the military installations in SCS ;)
@Crang,

Gladly, now if Beijing is smart, they should allow western cruise liner (NCL, RCCL and Princess cruise) to operate such route thereby legitimizing its claim even more.
 

Oldschool

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A strange phenomenon has developed recently. Taiwan is China's well known weak spot but now it's fast becoming US's. Every time China aggression toward Taiwan, US would have high level of concern and anxiety, afraid Taiwan might fall under China's invasion.
China is responding less to US actions in SCS, its squeezing Taiwan instead. China knows in US calculation Taiwan is a bigger asset than China's outposts in SCS.
 
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