China's SCS Strategy Thread


plawolf

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So having lost the element of surprise, how easy or difficult would it be to stop a MQ-9 attack?
Easier than shooting target drones, since target drones (at least Chinese ones) can be supersonic, carry EW suits, or LOV or a combination of those.

But I am not sure if China permanently forward deploys SAMs on those islands now. I think they sent some across a while back to prove a point, but not sure if that was just a temporary deployment or if it’s longer term.

But using drones for the attack is a smart move as they are reasoning China will be loathed to fire the first shot, so those drones would be able to fire the first shot (and probably purposefully hit unmanned targets like storage tanks or radar arrays etc, like they did with Iran) that will cause some damage so Trump can say he dropped the hammer on China, while any drones shot down would be at the bottom of the SCS, so no damaging photos (at least to start with) of destroyed drones. Just images of burning buildings on Chinese islands to boost his wannabe strong man image.

Of course such a move will carry massive diplomatic and strategic costs for the US. For one thing, the USN can never carry out FoN missions again, as I think one of the outcomes of such an unprovoked attack would be that China would declare ADIZs over the entire SCS and expand existing ones to the entire Chinese seaboard, with a warning that any US military assets that enters the zones will be treated as hostile and shot down/sunk without warning.

But what would be a smarter move would be for the US to use drones to overfly Chinese SCS islands and force China to make the first offensive move. But I don’t think that is as flashy as Trump needs. He may start with overflights and escalate to strikes if China doesn’t bit and shoot first.
 

Japhethsdecendent

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Why is it imparative that China grab all this water? I get that there is oil and fish in there but why is it worth starting a war over? Did someone make actual moves to cut china off from the sea? Even if so how is this strategy the way to go?
 

SimaQian

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Why is it imparative that China grab all this water? I get that there is oil and fish in there but why is it worth starting a war over? Did someone make actual moves to cut china off from the sea? Even if so how is this strategy the way to go?
Think it this way. Imagine you have a house in a small land with a front yard. A little left side if your property somebody got pillbox with machine gun. A little right side of property somebody got a watch tower with soldiers with machine gun. Accross the street there is a cannon aimed to your house. What will you do if this the case? Should you just dig yourself in the basement?

You apply that to China where the front yard is the Bohai sea down to South China sea. You do some research how many US bases are there in Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Australia.. Who is sending warships and warplanes from far away places for a lame reason of freedom of navigation? Are the mechart ships from Korea , Japan or whoever not free to sail in South China sea?

If China will not secure its front lawn, pretty sure those aiming for China will raid and pillage its house. And we all know who is aiming at China house.


Edit: Somebody did raid China house before. Britain, France, even germany got a spoil. Even our brotherly neighbor for thousands of years, Japan, stabbed in front not in the back. So what will China do?
 
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Why must china build up and break out?
Because 1.4 billion Chinese people deserve to have their interests guarded by the most powerful, most uninhibited military in the world.
Why is it imparative that China grab all this water? I get that there is oil and fish in there but why is it worth starting a war over? Did someone make actual moves to cut china off from the sea? Even if so how is this strategy the way to go?
Because it belongs to China and every inch of Chinese territory is worth going to war over. If other countries believe that oil and fish are not worth going to war over, then they should very smartly get out of China's way.

Why is it imperative that the USN sail out of their territorial waters? Why should they keep the land they stole from the Native Americans? Why is it imperative that the British keep the Falklands or the Chagos Archipelago? You're barkin' up the wrong tree.
 

Petrolicious88

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This is a very dangerous game the US military is playing. While it is may be a low risk underhanded trick by impersonating a commercial flight as far as the US military is concern, it elevates the risk of accidents to commercial flights route and consequently to whole region.
You can’t bet that the US will play this kind of games during an actual conflict; hoping China would make the mistake of accidentally shooting down a civilian airliner.
 

Petrolicious88

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Because 1.4 billion Chinese people deserve to have their interests guarded by the most powerful, most uninhibited military in the world.

Because it belongs to China and every inch of Chinese territory is worth going to war over. If other countries believe that oil and fish are not worth going to war over, then they should very smartly get out of China's way.

Why is it imperative that the USN sail out of their territorial waters? Why should they keep the land they stole from the Native Americans? Why is it imperative that the British keep the Falklands or the Chagos Archipelago? You're barkin' up the wrong tree.
The entire South China Sea does not belong to China, lol. But the reason China needs to control all areas within the 9 dash line is for strategic and geopolitical reasons.

The US has bases throughout the pacific. It has China boxed in via its bases in Japan, Korea, Philippines, Etc. China simply wants to be in control of its own backyard.
 

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