China's red sea/gulf/middle east strategy

aahyan

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I'm sorry, you can't expect everyone to care about Palestine. That's including me. I don't really care about them. Although I hate Israel for their act of massacre in Gaza sometime ago. It is the same to Ukraine. I don't really care about Ukraine, because I don't related to them. You can't force everyone to care about Palestine. The only people who should really care about Palestine is Middle Eastern countries and Muslim World. Because if they don't really care about Palestine, then nobody care.

Because for United States, Israel is more important than Palestinian. As there are many important / influential persons in United States that is Jew / Israeli descents. Look at today Biden's ministers in United States, like Blinken and others. They are Jew / Israeli descents. So, if they have to choose between Israel and Palestine, you can easily guess which countries they'll choose to help.

So in a nut-shell, you are saying Humanity doesn't exists....
 

Brainsuker

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Then hypocrisy is the word or might is right?

And one would thing, UN existence for what? or why all talks of human rights etc...
Hypocrisy is the word. In my opinion, human rights is a weapon to justify an act of political attack toward your enemy country.
 

Ex0

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You think China isn't sharing identification info with Iran? Or Russia isn't sharing targeting info? They are doing joint anti piracy patrols already in the area with the same ships lol.

I wouldn't be surprised if they join china soon for red sea patrols. This is a pretty big message and sending the right signals to gauge public reaction first.
 

Ex0

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USA claimed that a Chinese owned ship was hit by anti ship missiles.

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The Panamanian-flagged, Chinese-owned and operated Huang Pu issued a distress call on Saturday but did not request assistance, US Central Command (CENTCOM) said in a statement on social media platform X early on Sunday.
“No casualties were reported, and the vessel resumed its course,” the statement said.

Operating under Panamanian flag, zero casualties, and the ship continued sailing through and I assume it made it to its original destination.

So what was even the point? This sounds highly suspicious to me, even more so since it was reported by US Navy.

What is USA's goals here in regards to China? They want China to join it's US led "global" taskforce in the red sea?

If they hit a Chinese owned ship with Chinese flag, that would be different. But this is a Panamanian ship with Panamanian flag. So even if it was Chinese owned, it doesn't mean much. Maybe they should use a Chinese flag next time if they want the protection that would be afforded to them from like all other ships seem to be doing by using Chinese flag or putting Chinese related stuff into their digital broadcasting and identification info.

If this is true, it also brings me back to my previous points, which was houthi or Irans intelligence capabilities are not as strong as China's(or Russias) in the red sea, or at least in terms of tracking, identifying and striking ships in real time.

If China or others release more information about this, please share or link here. I'd be interested to know more about this case since it sounds like a non issue and the real story is just usa trying to hype things up and do some anti china propaganda.
 

coolgod

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USA claimed that a Chinese owned ship was hit by anti ship missiles.

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Operating under Panamanian flag, zero casualties, and the ship continued sailing through and I assume it made it to its original destination.

So what was even the point? This sounds highly suspicious to me, even more so since it was reported by US Navy.

What is USA's goals here in regards to China? They want China to join it's US led "global" taskforce in the red sea?

If they hit a Chinese owned ship with Chinese flag, that would be different. But this is a Panamanian ship with Panamanian flag. So even if it was Chinese owned, it doesn't mean much. Maybe they should use a Chinese flag next time if they want the protection that would be afforded to them from like all other ships seem to be doing by using Chinese flag or putting Chinese related stuff into their digital broadcasting and identification info.

If this is true, it also brings me back to my previous points, which was houthi or Irans intelligence capabilities are not as strong as China's(or Russias) in the red sea, or at least in terms of tracking, identifying and striking ships in real time.

If China or others release more information about this, please share or link here. I'd be interested to know more about this case since it sounds like a non issue and the real story is just usa trying to hype things up and do some anti china propaganda.
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The original owners of the ship were British, in January they registered a new company called Hera Gam Limited HK. In Feb they transferred ownership of that ship to this new company. That's how "Chinese" the ship is.
 

lcloo

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The original owners of the ship were British, in January they registered a new company called Hera Gam Limited HK. In Feb they transferred ownership of that ship to this new company. That's how "Chinese" the ship is.
I made a quick search, there is nothing "Chinese" except an address in Hong Kong.

The board of directors and company secretary of Anavatos Ltd are all British.
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