China's Defense/Military Breaking News Thread


zhangjim

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Having seen the weapons show fills me with dread . The chinese seem to be investing in new and creative platforms and tech i have predicted over the years.Iam horrified. If the USA wages war in the next 5-7 years we will get slaughtered . China will fucking kill our men by the scores. It will be a fucking humiliating
In this regard, I can only say that many countries have mistakenly taken their temporary technological advantage as their own country's innate excellence.

Remember World War I? Before the war, European countries were trying to promote the bravery of soldiers, and deliberately avoided the value of machine guns. After all, they never thought that this tool for slaughtering "barbarians" would eventually be used against "civilized nations".

But the future could be worse than you think. There are people at the top of the US who can't accept this reality any more than you can, and they plan to use tactical nuclear weapons to ensure their superiority. That's why, after decades, the diplomatic service has made a rare accusation of U.S. nuclear blackmail.

The obsession with "absolute superiority" can really destroy the whole world.
 

escobar

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Xu foreshadows greater employment of the PLA but also a recognition of the need to “make up for the shortcomings of our army’s combat system,” implying this will be hard to do while also needing to maintain readiness and continue modernization
Xu had tough words for Taiwan, but the essay did not reflect a PLA that believed it has achieved sufficient capability for major military action—or would do so soon.
 

bobsagget

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In this regard, I can only say that many countries have mistakenly taken their temporary technological advantage as their own country's innate excellence.

Remember World War I? Before the war, European countries were trying to promote the bravery of soldiers, and deliberately avoided the value of machine guns. After all, they never thought that this tool for slaughtering "barbarians" would eventually be used against "civilized nations".

But the future could be worse than you think. There are people at the top of the US who can't accept this reality any more than you can, and they plan to use tactical nuclear weapons to ensure their superiority. That's why, after decades, the diplomatic service has made a rare accusation of U.S. nuclear blackmail.

The obsession with "absolute superiority" can really destroy the whole world.
. What scares me are ai powered smart munitions . If i scream it will not care . If i run it will not care. If i piss my pants and beg the ai fused smart munition will not fucking care. It will find me and it will kill me. Unless the Chinese are kind enough to put a surrender function on em where it just sits on you like a landmine until you are recovered. I am a good shot i am fit i train regularly . I cannot out perform a machine. Also the usa has fallen into the pre ww1 mentality trap but we call it experiance.
When was the last time we fought a naval battle of any value against a peer? When did we get into a nuclear exchange against a nuclear armed country? When did we face a country that has an equal gdp to us? Thats before we get to trade / import disruption market chaos etc . I do not want to kill Chinese people for some stupid economic reason. Likewise i do not want to die to pad someones fucking bank account
 

bobsagget

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Sorry but that made me LOL, typical reaction when an American strays outside the western information bubble. But why 5-7 years? Don't tell me you buy the "nadir of power" carfentanyl-tier copium the Pentagon has switched to peddling. Unless god intervenes to smite the PLA it's only getting worse from here on.
No i have been “red pilled” on china for decades. I just feel we are now at an undeniable tipping point. Might as well build that proposed high speed rail line connecting the usa and china via Alaska. At this point nothing will come out of stubborn pride asides from corpses
 

ougoah

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No i have been “red pilled” on china for decades. I just feel we are now at an undeniable tipping point. Might as well build that proposed high speed rail line connecting the usa and china via Alaska. At this point nothing will come out of stubborn pride asides from corpses

It's a shame that most Americans absolutely do not share this view (at least non Chinese-American Americans). The trajectory of the forces in play indicate that war is an inevitability. Kinetic war, not the propaganda and political/slandering war which the US has been waging for some time and China is slow to start in reciprocating (mostly because it's focused on the more tangible warfares).

Like Zhangjim mentioned, it is the time as we currently stand upon, that the vast majority of US citizens are ignorant on China in an intentional, planned direction. Whereas Chinese are just ignorant about the US (outside of the fact it is extremely adversarial to China) because Chinese people are kept rather busy and are much more apolitical overall. The US still has an overall lead in technology but the gap has been closing tremendously fast through the last decades. Decades are less than a blink of an eye in civilisation cycles/ages. More westerners believe in some inherent "exceptionalism" or "superiority" perhaps owing to centuries of colonial derived industrial and economic dominance. That's not to say there is no contribution to that in terms of leadership, organisation, and "tribal" unifying forces such as Christianity. But China is eclipsing the west in technology. The evidence is abundant if one cares to search. But the problem is right there, one does not care to understand the true nature of things. No one has built a complete understanding of anything remotely complex or nuanced (experts cannot know and understand all there is to in their field) let alone all things, but it appears to me that in this grand scheme of things, those at the top are always brought down by "virtue" of lofty positions.

It is therefore extremely unfortunate that humanity actually finds itself at this position. With our natural behaviour as it is and has been since our evolution into this form and all that baggage which come with, combined with our relatively newly acquired technological means of destruction at a scale primitive humans did not have, perhaps the reason we've come this far despite being that magical combination of violent, lacking in empathy, greedy, mistrustful, untrustworthy, and proud. I am fortunate enough to have lived in, learned, experienced, built some deep understanding of how both "sides" think, feel, operate, and truly I would happily be judged on my firm belief that western culture is the more toxic, deceitful, and counter to mutual peace/prosperity of the two. I know this in my heart of hearts and while Chinese people and culture is nothing near perfect or even any ideal, it is far more open to simply existing with "the flow of things"... well compared to the west at least. Any future conflict that arises out of this would be brought around by the west feeling that China is about to "unseat" it as a global hegemon, which the US has been since it more or less dictates the world order and has commanded just about every piece of resource on our little planet.
 

bobsagget

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It's a shame that most Americans absolutely do not share this view (at least non Chinese-American Americans). The trajectory of the forces in play indicate that war is an inevitability. Kinetic war, not the propaganda and political/slandering war which the US has been waging for some time and China is slow to start in reciprocating (mostly because it's focused on the more tangible warfares).

Like Zhangjim mentioned, it is the time as we currently stand upon, that the vast majority of US citizens are ignorant on China in an intentional, planned direction. Whereas Chinese are just ignorant about the US (outside of the fact it is extremely adversarial to China) because Chinese people are kept rather busy and are much more apolitical overall. The US still has an overall lead in technology but the gap has been closing tremendously fast through the last decades. Decades are less than a blink of an eye in civilisation cycles/ages. More westerners believe in some inherent "exceptionalism" or "superiority" perhaps owing to centuries of colonial derived industrial and economic dominance. That's not to say there is no contribution to that in terms of leadership, organisation, and "tribal" unifying forces such as Christianity. But China is eclipsing the west in technology. The evidence is abundant if one cares to search. But the problem is right there, one does not care to understand the true nature of things. No one has built a complete understanding of anything remotely complex or nuanced (experts cannot know and understand all there is to in their field) let alone all things, but it appears to me that in this grand scheme of things, those at the top are always brought down by "virtue" of lofty positions.

It is therefore extremely unfortunate that humanity actually finds itself at this position. With our natural behaviour as it is and has been since our evolution into this form and all that baggage which come with, combined with our relatively newly acquired technological means of destruction at a scale primitive humans did not have, perhaps the reason we've come this far despite being that magical combination of violent, lacking in empathy, greedy, mistrustful, untrustworthy, and proud. I am fortunate enough to have lived in, learned, experienced, built some deep understanding of how both "sides" think, feel, operate, and truly I would happily be judged on my firm belief that western culture is the more toxic, deceitful, and counter to mutual peace/prosperity of the two. I know this in my heart of hearts and while Chinese people and culture is nothing near perfect or even any ideal, it is far more open to simply existing with "the flow of things"... well compared to the west at least. Any future conflict that arises out of this would be brought around by the west feeling that China is about to "unseat" it as a global hegemon, which the US has been since it more or less dictates the world order and has commanded just about every piece of resource on our little planet.
It is rather frustrating to live with . I mean i remember as a kid old nam vets saying in 03 that we were going to loose iraq and a stan . Well look what happens 10 trillion dollars later. One thing the pro war crowd thinks of is what happens if we win ? We will have destroyed a nation thats 33 percent of global manufacturing out put a nation of 1.4 billion people spread across an area the size of conus with a language very few americans are fluent in. Now if i know one thing from chinese history is after the last occupation and century of humiliation they would rather cease to exist than to bow to a western state. If afghanistan and iraq was bad for insurgency, imagine millions of angry educated chinese who also likely have skilled trades folk en mass. The type of folk who can make 100 lbs of c4 cut up sewer pipe and a cap and make an efp out of it. Fact is we have nowhere near enough people to occupy or run china, let alone the political logistics of administrating it. Even if we won it would destroy us
 

Soldier30

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At the Airshow China 2022 exhibition, a promo video of the Chinese strike UAV CH4 was shown. In general, the amount shown at the exhibition is impressive, we will talk about some of the presented. UAV CH-4 has huge dimensions, length 8.5 meters, wingspan 18 meters. The drone is produced in two versions - the CH-4A reconnaissance vehicle with a flight duration of up to 30 hours and the CH-4V attack vehicle, capable of carrying up to 350 kg of combat load on four external suspension units. There is also a version of the CH-4C drone. The maximum flight altitude of the drone is 8000 meters. Flight speed up to 220 km/h. The drone is equipped with a piston engine.

 

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