China need a new geopolitical Doctrine ?


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Japhethsdecendent

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China is not proselytizing its governmental system to any other country, so there goes you quip with regards to Communism, an Orwellian Police State, a Social Credit System, and Mass Censorship. Those who believe that China preaches or insist that other countries follow its system of government are only imagining things that are not real.

China doesn't get Communism right (as though that is a bad thing), and that is true certainly since Deng's reforms from 1978 that have lifted many hundreds of millions of people out of absolute poverty, and has brought in much state of the art and modern infrastructure, and a technologically fairly advanced country. There are very few who believe in sticking to the ideology of getting Communist right is a good thing.

China has territorial disputes in the South China Sea, but other countries also have territorial disputes that overlap not just with China's, both others. Malaysia, Vietnam, and the Philippines all have overlapping claims with one another as well. Obviously, little attention is brought to to that because they do not have the power to actively pursue their claims. There are those who are not involved in any of the dispute that take sides against and aim at just one country for obvious reasons.

There has not been any territorial expansionism by China because it is not claiming anything more than what it had long claimed. But expansionism is not limited to just territorial expansion. It is also defined as expansion of influence as through financial and economic power, and also improvement of military power and capability without even deploying military forces, as well as cultural softpower. Are those necessarily a bad thing? Obviously, those will bring about concern, anxiety, resentment, and even fear of others, and they will find reasons to criticize them. Filipino telenovelas, Korean K-Pop, and Bollywood have become very popular globally in the 21st century, there are those who dislike that sort of expansionism.
China does it often through it's propaganda talking about how it's system is much better, also our communist retards can be used by china or will weaken us from the inside by giving up on individual rights and responsibilities. I guess the question I would have to the pro china expansion crowd is why? Why scare or piss people off if it's not for some larger grand vision? The US sell the idea of freedom and individual rights, just how that has gone is another argument but the idea is coherent. China's goal seems to be china strong and that's it. Perhaps making the average chinese richer but that is having a tough time lately. But what about nonchinese? Why would we go alone with it? At least the US government pretends to care about the rights of the individual if china doesn't even do that why would we want them to have more influence? China is strong but it can't rule the world by brute force and bribes. These tricks can only get so far and we may have already seen more or less the limit.
 

Japhethsdecendent

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I think that's a massive claim you're pushing and if that is your take on things and the way you're going to post here there is going to be a short degree of patience for you I'm afraid.
I am not here to curry favor I am here to add flavor. It is not helpful for any group to not understand the mindset of those outside especially if they are going to have any dealings with them.
 

BMEWS

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I am not here to curry favor I am here to add flavor. It is not helpful for any group to not understand the mindset of those outside especially if they are going to have any dealings with them.
If I was on an India forum talking trash about India my Ip address would have gotten hardbanned in five seconds.
 

AssassinsMace

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Christians lie that they've been feeding China and the Chinese are ungrateful. Grateful for starting the starvation in the first place? It's sounds just like Trump who destroys NAFTA only to replaced it with the same thing so then he put his name and take credit for it.
 

Japhethsdecendent

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Yaa, I love American "analysts " .
Watching your heart felt emotion for Chinese people under mass censorship, I almost cried.
We know Chinese people demand freedom from xinping, they want to live under free leadership of fake Americans. They all love American p--nhub culture. They love to be free like Syrians, Afghans, Libyans, Iraqis. For that they need very cute Americans.

So I have a megaplan, The deal of the century.

As we have seen , Americans are getting increasingly worried about Chinese people, I am proposing that, The United States should be handed over to Chinese peoples ,in return China will be democracy.

I think this is a fair deal since I can't watch worried Americans getting heart attack being worried about someone else.

Of course, this deal starts with lucrative offer of Chinese democracy at very beginning.
I am asking for a vote from Chinese people ,how many want The United States not of America to be dissolved & integrated into China as The United States of China.

In the end, I thank you for the pure heart felt concern about Chinese people. You have no geo political goal. Your feeling for Chinese people is so innocent & pure. I am sure you are going to make this sacrifice for oppressed & censored Chinese people.

We thank you for your sacrifice.
Lets break this down one at a time. First are you saying you don't want chinese to be free or that they cannot handle freedom like others? I think some chinese would take offense I know I would. As to the porn culture thing let me explain something about the US. Being as free and diverse as we are there are essentially many Americas. You are referring to the devils who have taken over the establishment and entertainment sector or jews and their filth. I agree and it should be ridiculed at every opportunity. But as there is extreme bad there is also room for extreme good. We have a lot of opportunity here even with cultural degradation, done by leftists btw. As to wars in the middle east our government hasn't been honest about the intentions and even the layperson is starting to question. If they would lock down on American freedoms so fast why would they care about the freedoms of other nations? It is about positioning probably but the syrians have nothing to do with the domino effect of assads troubles. That country is a bunch of monsters fighting over it and I have been there and seen part of it first hand.

The afghans steal as much money as they can and their gdp and even life expectancy have gone up despite the fighting, that war hurt the US taxpayer more than anybody else and is a proxy war with mainly pakistan and fighters from all over the world. The Libyan campaign and iraq seem to be at the behest of isreal I don't know what they were thinking but fighting over dredged up islands is also pretty dumb. We already offered china democracy and gave you a ton of money both in legit business and in your thefts which we were merciful about for decades. We can ask hong kongers about their free trial of becoming chinese and we will go from there.
 

Japhethsdecendent

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What do you mean as it is today? Do you mean since the proclamation of the PRC?

Destroyed their culture? Are you referring to the failed Cultural Revolution, because China today is filled with references and continuity of practicing and ritually honouring customs from antiquity, dating to even before the Xia and Shang Dynasty. Does one need to list you some of the cultural and customary practices and traditions still practiced and honoured from that period to before 1949?

How about:

- The Chinese Zodiac
- Confucianism
- Toaism
- Ancestral generation
- Annual tomb cleaning
- Upkeep and construction of Chinese gardens
- Jade Carving
I referrence what others had commented about taiwan being more chinese than china. Maybe they were just mad at china or maybe since there was no destructive era more survived but I don't claim to be an expert in chinese culture. Not sure why its so important for you or others to feel like your country is the oldest, is it the best place to live would be my metric of success.
 

Japhethsdecendent

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You sound like an Indian Bhakt, or a Steve Bannon cultist. For you to think China existed for only 70 years and only ruled by the CPC throughout its existence. You clown!

Must have been tough on you to see 'Communist China' school your beloved 'great democracies' of USA and India on good governance.

So you probably got paid or are just a loser from your China-bashing circle to come here to a Chinese Defence Forum to troll.
When did this schooling occur?
 
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