China Flanker Thread II

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Aren't those on the wingtips ordinarily?

From what we can see of the prototypes, the J-16D flew with wingtip ECM/EW pods, but seeing as they seem to be standard to the aircraft, I wouldn't be surprised if they served a similar role to the wingtip pods that are always equipped on the EA-18G -- i.e.: the role of ESM.


J-16D does also have some other antennae and internal avionics integral to the aircraft.

But the bulk of J-16D's active EW capability, IMO should be in the form of large EW/jamming pods -- which of course we have yet to see.
We haven't had much updates of the J-16D so we don't really know how it's proceeding or if the PLA is committed to developing and inducting it yet. I do hope they commit though, the J-16 is an excellent platform to develop a modern EW escort jammer and SEAD/DEAD aircraft for, and such work can be spiralled to an EW J-15 variant as well, which supposedly a prototype made its maiden flight either this year or last year.
 

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From what we can see of the prototypes, the J-16D flew with wingtip ECM/EW pods, but seeing as they seem to be standard to the aircraft, I wouldn't be surprised if they served a similar role to the wingtip pods that are always equipped on the EA-18G -- i.e.: the role of ESM.


J-16D does also have some other antennae and internal avionics integral to the aircraft.

But the bulk of J-16D's active EW capability, IMO should be in the form of large EW/jamming pods -- which of course we have yet to see.
We haven't had much updates of the J-16D so we don't really know how it's proceeding or if the PLA is committed to developing and inducting it yet. I do hope they commit though, the J-16 is an excellent platform to develop a modern EW escort jammer and SEAD/DEAD aircraft for, and such work can be spiralled to an EW J-15 variant as well, which supposedly a prototype made its maiden flight either this year or last year.
Aren't those on the wingtips ordinarily?

I think the question is simply, what si ordinary or the usual standard fit: For a regular J-16 is is standard to have PL-10-pylons and as such an internal ECM-system, whereas for a J-16D it is standard to have these larger EW-pods fitted on the wing-tips.

By the way, any news on the J-16D program?

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I think the question is simply, what si ordinary or the usual standard fit: For a regular J-16 is is standard to have PL-10-pylons and as such an internal ECM-system, whereas for a J-16D it is standard to have these larger EW-pods fitted on the wing-tips.

Well, yes it does seem to be a "usual" loadout for J-16 to have PL-10 on wingtips (however we don't see it in every picture of J-16 ever -- there are some photos where J-16 doesn't have PL-10 on wingtips).

OTOH, all the few photos of J-16D that we have shows the EW pods on its wingtips.


This doesn't mean J-16's ECM suite is "internal," because that suggests that J-16D's equivalent ECM suite is "external".


Instead, what is the case is that both aircraft likely have "internal" ECM/EW capabilities, but the role of J-16D means it is normal for it to fly with external wingtip EW pods that provide it more advanced EW capability beyond what J-16's mere internal EW capability can provide.


That is to say, J-16D has internal EW/ECM equipment (which is probably more capable than J-16's internal EW/ECM capability), but it also carries external EW/ECM equipment.



However, I'm not sure what siege's comment in reply #6308 to davidau is intended to mean -- after all, none of davidau's pictures show a J-16D, they only show J-16!!.




By the way, any news on the J-16D program?

Deino

No... in my previous post I mention how we haven't had updates of J-16D.
 

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A few rumors from "百战刀". Does anyone know how credible he is? Huitong seems to be reading his posts a lot.

1. PLAAF will launch regular "island patrols" with a combination of H-6N and either J-16 or J-11D.

2. Three prototype Flankers have been spotted at Yanliang test center last month, and a new J-11D prototype is suspected to be among them.
 

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A few rumors from "百战刀". Does anyone know how credible he is? Huitong seems to be reading his posts a lot.

1. PLAAF will launch regular "island patrols" with a combination of H-6N and either J-16 or J-11D.

2. Three prototype Flankers have been spotted at Yanliang test center last month, and a new J-11D prototype is suspected to be among them.


I want images !!!!! ... the same for the UCAV.

But I think it is indeed possible. From my sources the first H-6N were already delivered in early 2017.
 
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