China demographics thread.

ODEPDE

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Good for you, but what I said has nothing to do with factors of production. Try to understand the point I'm making instead of regurgitating irrelevant terms from an Econ 101 textbook.
Ah yes, technology is a factor of production and has higher productivity payoffs than services, ergo technology and ICT are preferred over services. You alluded to factors of production without writing it out
 

ZeEa5KPul

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Ah yes, technology is a factor of production and has higher productivity payoffs than services, ergo technology and ICT are preferred over services. You alluded to factors of production without writing it out
No, Sleepystudent, that wasn't the point. The point is that certain industries are parasitic - it doesn't matter how much money they make, they make it by doing harm. The point isn't about differential payoffs: Private tuition might be a lot more profitable than semiconductors or advanced manufacturing, but it makes that profit by harming society. This is why I likened it to a cancer.
 

ODEPDE

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No, Sleepystudent, that wasn't the point. The point is that certain industries are parasitic - it doesn't matter how much money they make, they make it by doing harm. The point isn't about differential payoffs: Private tuition might be a lot more profitable than semiconductors or advanced manufacturing, but it makes that profit by harming society. This is why I likened it to a cancer.
yeah and I was simply mentioning immigration was a source of growth and immigration doesn't cause social harm. The government obviously exists to stop social harm from happening lest it affects long-run growth. This is a distraction. Oh btw, are you happy with the NBS dataset I gave you? China's birth rate is in fact, dropping substantially faster than the US birth rate with no end in sight. :)
 

ZeEa5KPul

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Yep. Business formation, technological innovation, consumption-led economic growth and brain-draining competitors. Real "social harm" lol
Riots, ethnic tensions, national legislatures being sacked, low-grade civil wars. Your problem, Sleepystudent, is that you believe the virtues you listed can only be attained by immigration. Perhaps that's true for America, with the attendant social harm I pointed out, but it certainly isn't true for China.
 

ODEPDE

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*Yawn*. Not even an insurance risk
ethnic tensions
Ah yes, all the ethnic tensions which explains large inter-racial marriages and the white vote shifting *to the left* in maj-min states. Okay sure
national legislatures being sacked, low-grade civil wars.
Ah yes, some random LARPers on January 6th really are going to affect long-run growth.
Your problem, Sleepystudent, is that you believe the virtues you listed can only be attained by immigration. Perhaps that's true for America, with the attendant social harm I pointed out, but it certainly isn't true for China.
It's an additive process. YOu can accomplish more with immigration than without it. You get more business formation and innovation with innovation than without it
 

HybridHypothesis

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*Yawn*. Not even an insurance risk

Ah yes, all the ethnic tensions which explains large inter-racial marriages and the white vote shifting *to the left* in maj-min states. Okay sure

Ah yes, some random LARPers on January 6th really are going to affect long-run growth.

It's an additive process. YOu can accomplish more with immigration than without it. You get more business formation and innovation with innovation than without it

whats with the unironic growth worship? its just as retarded as the "zero corona at any cost" folks,

and ethnic replacement via mass immigration is a non starter, especially by Indians and Africans. its a tool for crushing the middle class EOD.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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It's an additive process. YOu can accomplish more with immigration than without it. You get more business formation and innovation with innovation than without it
Once again, perhaps that's true in America. That isn't the case in China - in China at this phase of development you get beneficial growth by urbanizing and educating the workforce, building infrastructure, and removing the disincentives to 2+ child families. Perhaps in several decades things might change and China might benefit from some immigration (even then they would be guest workers not on paths to citizenship) from neighbouring countries in SEA, but we're very far from that.
 

HybridHypothesis

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National power is a function of economic growth.

Meh, not really. Indian-American per capita personal income is higher than even native-born white-American incomes.
focusing only on GDP is a bugman mentality lol. immigrants will never be as loyal to the new country as the native stock.

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People are really going to claim that the West has "superior economics" while demonstrating they have had zero participation in the political culture of these past 10 years.
 
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