China demographics thread.

[Wrought]

From nepal

Not this again, go read my other comment. The man is not the religion.

 

[Chevalier]

If you just keep harping on their weaknesses and follies then you are doing yourself and talent a great disservice. It's fine to do it here to get brownie points, but if you do it in front of a less like-minded audience, you will become a laughing stock. Nepotism is surely bad and that is their mistake. But how were they able to get there in the first place and we Chinese couldn't? You are making a joke of the panel of directors who vote to pick their leaders. You think the people who chose the South Asia lady to lead Pepsi favored her because she was not their kind?

I live in Singapore and I don't look at our system as a role model. I look to China.

How were indians able to get there? Ie positions of power and influence in the anglosphere?
Frankly, that’s more testament to the rot of Anglo rule and administration than any sort of inherent Indian capability and merit. For instance, it is unlikely to occur to a Chinese person to pull a Mindy Kaling‘s brother and pretend to be black just to get affirmative action into uni, because Chinese Americans foolishly believed the west was a true meritocracy as opposed to the apartheid feudal oligarchy it is. Why did all those Chinese sea turtles return to China to start companies and not the United States? The anglos under its current rule is so anti Asian that they promote pogroms against ethnic asians and imprison Asian men who would defend themselves.

 

[azn_cyniq]

....you know Buddhism is from India, right? Did you never read 西游记 as a kid?

I do. Nonetheless, Buddhism's impact on China was rather limited.

 

[broadsword]

How were indians able to get there? Ie positions of power and influence in the anglosphere?
Frankly, that’s more testament to the rot of Anglo rule and administration than any sort of inherent Indian capability and merit. For instance, it is unlikely to occur to a Chinese person to pull a Mindy Kaling‘s brother and pretend to be black just to get affirmative action into uni, because Chinese Americans foolishly believed the west was a true meritocracy as opposed to the apartheid feudal oligarchy it is. Why did all those Chinese sea turtles return to China to start companies and not the United States? The anglos under its current rule is so anti Asian that they promote pogroms against ethnic asians and imprison Asian men who would defend themselves.

You lost the plot if you think it was all due to the rot of the "Anglo rule and administration than any sort of inherent Indian...". You're only making up groundless theories unless you can show some studies to support your assertions.

You are well educated but your knowledge is still not wide enough to encompass the wider reality even though I learned a lot from your academic knowledge. I mean it is not just one American company.

Since you think the appointments had nothing to do with capability and merit, why not appoint Blacks or Hispanics instead of Indians?

 

[azn_cyniq]

If you just keep harping on their weaknesses and follies then you are doing yourself and talent a great disservice. It's fine to do it here to get brownie points, but if you do it in front of a less like-minded audience, you will become a laughing stock. Nepotism is surely bad and that is their mistake. But how were they able to get there in the first place and we Chinese couldn't? You are making a joke of the panel of directors who vote to pick their leaders. You think the people who chose the South Asia lady to lead Pepsi favored her because she was not their kind?

I live in Singapore and I don't look at our system as a role model. I look to China.

You're naive...you really need to come to the US and take a good look at how a lot of our major companies operate. You're from Singapore, so I don't blame you for feeling the way you do.

 

[broadsword]

You're naive...you really need to come to the US and take a good look at how a lot of our major companies operate. You're from Singapore, so I don't blame you for feeling the way you do.

Well, tell us here for the benefit of everyone. Specifically, are the Chinese discriminated against in favor of Indians despite having better management skills for the top posts?

 

[coolgod]

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[Randomuser]

Well, tell us here for the benefit of everyone. Specifically, are the Chinese discriminated against in favor of Indians despite having better management skills for the top posts?

I mean yeah simply due to the fact that right now China is the enemy and doing so is bad optics for putting your direct enemy in charge.

But even if they weren't like Japan or Korea they wouldn't fare any better since they aren't Indo-European. Maybe they don't even see Indians as "Asians" and don't feel so threatened by then. The Ukraine war has somewhat revealed European distrust of anything from the east that looks oriental since it reminds them of Genghis Khan and the other nomads who traveled west.

Thinking about it, Chinese, Japanese and Koreans created Nvidia, Yahoo, Lam Research, Alibaba, Huawei, Sony, Toshiba, Samsung, TSMC etc. Maybe that also makes Europeans feel threatened. Genghis Khan is going westward to attack again but this time in the form of companies.

 

[azn_cyniq]

Well, tell us here for the benefit of everyone. Specifically, are the Chinese discriminated against in favor of Indians despite having better management skills for the top posts?

It is well-known here in the United States that as soon as an Indian manager is brought onboard, he or she starts replacing non-Indian employees with Indian ones. This hasn't happened to me because I'm not stupid enough to work for an Indian, but it's happened to so many people I know. It's gotten so bad that one of my former classmates, a software engineer at a major company, was forced to work overtime for months because one of the new hires on his team, an Indian, did not know what pointers were. I'm not joking. That's absolutely insane. Unsurprisingly, his boss was also an Indian. Eventually, he left for a higher-paying position. Recently, out of curiosity, he spoke to one of his former colleagues at the company and found out that his former team is all-Indian now. This is just one example, but there are so many others out there. Americans are starting to notice this phenomenon. Come to the United States, talk to some American engineers, and soon enough you'll hear about this. Price's Law states that a small percentage of a company's workforce does 50% of the work. That's why they can get away with this. Many companies make so much money that they couldn't care less about these deadweights.

Indian students are no better. I went to one of the top high schools in the country, a top 5 university for my undergraduate studies, and I am currently at a top 10 university for my graduate studies. I have interacted closely with hundreds of Indian students, and I can confidently say that more than 80% of them were cheaters. There were a couple of brilliant ones, but the vast majority were shamless cheaters. On the other hand, roughly 10% of the East Asian and white students I've interacted with were cheaters. I bash the West occasionally, but I respect the European work ethic. People of European descent work hard and that's why Europe and North America are developed. Like I said before, East Asians, Europeans, and Middle Easterners are more talented in general. At my high school, most of the students who won math competitions, programming competitions, science competitions, music competitions, etc. were from those three groups. Most Indians just aren't smart enough to compete fairly. I knew Indians who started "clubs" that didn't hold a single meeting just to pad their resumes. I could go on and on about the cheating...

In short, I have no respect for these people. I have not been hurt by them, but I cannot find a single reason to respect them. A small percentage of them are brilliant, but that's it. There is nothing that we can learn from them. Instead of taking advantage of Western loopholes, Chinese people should continue to work hard so that they can prosper and make the world a better place. There is no other way to make China stronger. It is easy to find ways to prosper as a minority without providing anything of value to society, but that approach is incompatible with successful nation-building.

 

[broadsword]

It is well-known here in the United States that as soon as an Indian manager is brought onboard, he or she starts replacing non-Indian employees with Indian ones. This hasn't happened to me because I'm not stupid enough to work for an Indian, but it's happened to so many people I know. It's gotten so bad that one of my former classmates, a software engineer at a major company, was forced to work overtime for months because one of the new hires on his team, an Indian, did not know what pointers were. I'm not joking. That's absolutely insane. Unsurprisingly, his boss was also an Indian. Eventually, he left for a higher-paying position. Recently, out of curiosity, he spoke to one of his former colleagues at the company and found out that his former team is all-Indian now. This is just one example, but there are so many others out there. Americans are starting to notice this phenomenon. Come to the United States, talk to some American engineers, and soon enough you'll hear about this. Price's Law states that a small percentage of a company's workforce does 50% of the work. That's why they can get away with this. Many companies make so much money that they couldn't care less about these deadweights.

Indian students are no better. I went to one of the top high schools in the country, a top 5 university for my undergraduate studies, and I am currently at a top 10 university for my graduate studies. I have interacted closely with hundreds of Indian students, and I can confidently say that more than 80% of them were cheaters. There were a couple of brilliant ones, but the vast majority were shamless cheaters. On the other hand, roughly 10% of the East Asian and white students I've interacted with werr cheaters. I bash the West occasionally, but I respect the European work ethic. People of European descent work hard and that's why Europe and North America are developed. Like I said before, East Asians, Europeans, and Middle Easterners are more talented in general. At my high school, most of the students who won math competitions, programming competitions, science competitions, music competitions, etc. were from those three groups. Most Indians just aren't smart enough to compete fairly. I knew Indians who started "clubs" that didn't hold a single meeting just to pad their resumes. I could go on and on about the cheating...

In short, I have no respect for these people. I have not been hurt by them, but I cannot find a single reason to respect them. A small percentage of them are brilliant, but that's it. There is nothing that we can learn from them. Instead of taking advantage of Western loopholes, Chinese people should continue to work hard so that they can prosper and make the world a better place. There is no other way to make China stronger. It is easy to find ways to prosper as a minority without providing anything of value to society, but that approach is incompatible with successful nation-building.

I was not talking about nepotism in the first place. I was talking about securing the top posts like in Microsoft, Pepsi, Google, etc. It was @Chevalier who later expanded it to nepotism, a point which I don't disagree. So your post is not relevant.