China Coast Guard and Patrol vessels


blindsight

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If coast guard ships were to be drafted into navy combat duties in war time, most likely they will be equiped for similar roles of type 056 and type 056A, i.e. coastal patrol and shallow water ASW roles. I don't foresee that they will be deploy for anti-ship roles, thus won't be fitted with any long range anti-ship missiles.

What role that will be given will depend on the displacement of each ship, since CCG possess ships and boats below 200 tons to that above 10,000 tons.

It is also very unlikely those large ships will be retrofitted with any air defense missiles, nor any VLS. The time to refit CCG ships to navy standard may not be much shorted than building a new navy ships like type 054A. The refit of CCG ships requires more than just add a few missiles launcher racks and a fire control radar. There will be systems integration among all electronic suites, re-positioning of sensors to avoid electronic signal interference, re-training of the crew etc etc.

It would be better just to produce more dedicated warships rather than spending time and money on refitting CCG ships to carry anti-ship or air defence missiles to the level of type 054A or beyond..
To refit the cutters for ASW will cost a lot, not only the upgrades but training as well. Maybe they should build those giant cutters with a huge helicopter deck. For ASW missions, the cutters could provide supports for the helicopters. They could also load land-based missile systems or rocket launchers onto the ships. It's essentially a cheap modular design, isn't it?
 

Chin evan

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Wartime search and rescue will be the best use for the coast guard ships, well a couple of portable shoulder Sams can be added into the mix
 

lcloo

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To refit the cutters for ASW will cost a lot, not only the upgrades but training as well. Maybe they should build those giant cutters with a huge helicopter deck. For ASW missions, the cutters could provide supports for the helicopters. They could also load land-based missile systems or rocket launchers onto the ships. It's essentially a cheap modular design, isn't it?
This is a land based HQ-16 missiles system with 60 missiles, it is impposible to load even small fractiion of its missiles strength because there are lots and lots of electronic sensor and processing units that people always fail to see. There is simply no space on deck and below deck on any CCG ship, even the large 10,000 cutter will need very extentive refit.

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blindsight

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This is a land based HQ-16 missiles system with 60 missiles, it is impposible to load even small fractiion of its missiles strength because there are lots and lots of electronic sensor and processing units that people always fail to see. There is simply no space on deck and below deck on any CCG ship, even the large 10,000 cutter will need very extentive refit.

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I was talking about land-attack and anti-ship missiles.
 

5unrise

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I'd say there is definitely the space available to mount anti ship missiles, like the type 56a, along with the necessary radars. However, it would be a more complicated business than just adding a winch for towed array sonars and VDS. The effort might be better spent on fitting out any actual warship hulls already launched.
 

lcloo

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I was talking about land-attack and anti-ship missiles.
You posted "They could also load land-based missile systems or rocket launchers onto the ships. It's essentially a cheap modular design, isn't it?"

1) What land based "land attack missiles" do you propose? CJ-10, CJ-100?

2) Which land based "anti-ship missile" do you propose? YJ-12, YJ-18, YJ-62?
 

blindsight

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You posted "They could also load land-based missile systems or rocket launchers onto the ships. It's essentially a cheap modular design, isn't it?"

1) What land based "land attack missiles" do you propose? CJ-10, CJ-100?

2) Which land based "anti-ship missile" do you propose? YJ-12, YJ-18, YJ-62?
It's just a general concept. I didn't think of any specific model. However, since you're asking, let's say CJ-10 and YJ-12, how about them?
 

blindsight

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It's just a general concept. I didn't think of any specific model. However, since you're asking, let's say CJ-10 and YJ-12, how about them?
Keep that in mind: you don't have to put everything on a single ship. It's just like a mini floating base. You park the launcher on the deck, that's it.
 

Michaelsinodef

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Couldn't they have targeting/radar etc. be on actual warships, and then have them send command/order for the missiles on CSG ships to fire (along with coordinate/codes etc. to the missile).

Basically they can become floating launch vehicles used by actual warships.
 

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