China Coast Guard and Patrol vessels
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Okay is it just me - or does this vessel's hull look suspiciously like 056 OPV , especially in pic 2 in the Hawaiian visit series (down the the backwards-pointing exhaust funnels)?
Are the shipyards just modifying the designs between the Coast Guard and Navy?
Are the shipyards just modifying the designs between the Coast Guard and Navy?
cn_habs
Junior Member
No, MSA31 is a 3000t class ship, it shares no similarities with the 056. MSA/CMS cutters are built to completely different standards than PLAN ships, even similarly sized ships.
joshuatree
Captain
Read on other blog sites that Luda DDG 131 "Nanjing" has been decommissioned after 35 years of service but will be refitted as a CMS vessel. Looks like it's not a foregone conclusion that all newly commissioned CG vessels will be new. Perhaps the recent disputes has put an impetus to having more CG vessels available? Refit with water cannon armaments? 
Read on other blog sites that Luda DDG 131 "Nanjing" has been decommissioned after 35 years of service but will be refitted as a CMS vessel. Looks like it's not a foregone conclusion that all newly commissioned CG vessels will be new. Perhaps the recent disputes has put an impetus to having more CG vessels available? Refit with water cannon armaments?
i see it as China being cheap and not willing to let go of ships that they should. I don't think CMS wants these old ships because it adds a lot to the maintenance cost. It would much rather have new 3000 ton ships, but some bureaucrats just can't think straight. They are like if the ship can still operate, why not use it in a reduced patrolling capacity?
I see the four ships as keen jerk reaction to the Diaoyu island conflict, yes CMS rather have new ships, and they are getting them, but with close to 20 ships of 1000t or above on order it'll take time for them to become operational. Meanwhile we have four ships retired from PLAN that can be converted within a year to become CMS patrol ships. Out of the four ships, 131 and 162 will provide a fast response cutter that can respond quickly to intrusions, while 226 and 830 are larger displacement ships that can stay in the area for extended period of time. They will provide a stop gap measure for the next three years until all the dedicated CMS ships can enter service, and let them design the next generation of high performance cutters.
I am extremely curious as to what kind of refit the Luda would receive for CMS service.
New diesel engine, communication gear, video recorder, fish finder, UAV facilities, weapons change, quite extensive it turns out.
joshuatree
Captain
I also subscribe to this rationale. They want more ships in the water now that are CG vessels to compete with the Japanese CG fleet. At over 3000 tons, they would be on the larger side of CG vessels which can be helpful.
That would indeed be extensive. It would bring down operational costs, especially a newer fuel efficient diesel engine. Maybe even one of the two smoke stacks can go. By removing weapons, slashing down the size of the crew, etc; the refurbed Luda would actually have a lot of space for better crew quarters and provisions. It would be like half a new ship but reduce the amount of time needed to fit a new vessel and put it on active duty.