China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread

[Hub]

I noticed and pointed it out in the Chinese Space Program thread. Worth pointing out that carbon fibre casing solid fuel motors, particularly when used as second stage can boost the missile's payload/range by a lot thanks to much lower dry mass compared to steel casing. When used as first stage it will still cause improvement but not to as large of an extent thanks to the rocket equation.

In the test video, they provide more information. It’s a powerful tool to build next generation rocket or ICBM

 

[bustead]

How about an EMP strike delivered by HGVs? The affected radius is much higher than that of a surface burst.

 

[Broccoli]

Seems somebody did not notice this news posted on different topic almost the same

An integral solid rocket booster developed by China for engineering application completed a test run at the Fourth Academy of China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation on Tuesday.

With a thrust of 500 tonnes, the booster is the most powerful of its kind in the world, China Central Television (CCTV) reported.
The booster, which is 3.5 meters in diameter, uses technologies, such as a high-performance fibrous composite shell and an extra-large nozzle, which puts its overall performance reach at the world's leading level.

in the original Chinese news, also mentioned there are some smaller variants. Based on this kind of monster , it should NOT be very difficult to build a solid fuel based rocket/ICBM , can carry HGV+FOBS payload.

Russians still see a value in liquid-fueled heavy ICBMs and then again so does Rocket Force as they continue developing new DF-5 variants most likely due the throw-weight those rockets (especially if rumors about DF-5C are true) offer vs any solid-fueled now and in near future.

I could see them replacing single warhead and MIRV armed DF-5A/B missiles with fobs armed DF-5C.

 

[escobar]

But not everyone agrees that China's build-up of hypersonic weapons is defensive. Michael Griffin, a former undersecretary of defense for research and engineering who is now co-president of LogiQ Inc., says China's hypersonic arsenal allows it to expand its influence in the region. "One can target air fields and aircraft carriers, within fifteen or twenty minutes of flight time, literally thousands of kilometers away from the Chinese mainland," he says. Griffin adds that the new intercontinental hypersonic missile could take that capability a step further. With or without a nuclear warhead, such weapons could potentially strike U.S. ships anywhere on earth. "That is a really big deal," he says.

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[sinophilia]

Americans are reporting that China appears to have broken the laws of physics. Pretty lol worthy.

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[Temstar]

Americans are reporting that China appears to have broken the laws of physics. Pretty lol worthy.

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I don't agree. The west does not want chjs to be another version of the US. They are working actively to prevent it. They want a china chats subservient to the west. I said "you are making China another version of US." I did not say that the west want that. I don't care what the west want, I...

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So I've arranged the dates, here's what I see:

1. July 16th - reusable spacecraft test according to Zhao, this seems to be correct and is

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This test definitely did not circle the globe
2. July 27th - supposed first hypersonic weapon test, the one that really shocked US.
3. August 13th - supposed second hypersonic weapon test, the original date that FT first quoted when they broke the news a few days ago
4. September 4th - just to demonstrate how much test China does, this is another reusable spacecraft test.

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, probably test of Shenlong spaceplane.

So assuming FT didn't make everything up and the supposed weapon test on July 27th and August 13th did occur. Zhao seems to have deliberately bought up the spacecraft test on 16th of July to confuse the issue. It doesn't leave us any clearer picture of the nature of the 2 weapon tests other than from FT's description at least one test sounds like a FOBS tipped with HGV.

 

[escobar]

So I've arranged the dates, here's what I see:

1. July 16th - reusable spacecraft test according to Zhao, this seems to be correct and is

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This test definitely did not circle the globe
2. July 27th - supposed first hypersonic weapon test, the one that really shocked US.
3. August 13th - supposed second hypersonic weapon test, the original date that FT first quoted when they broke the news a few days ago
4. September 4th - just to demonstrate how much test China does, this is another reusable spacecraft test.

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, probably test of Shenlong spaceplane.

So assuming FT didn't make everything up and the supposed weapon test on July 27th and August 13th did occur. Zhao seems to have deliberately bought up the spacecraft test on 16th of July to confuse the issue. It doesn't leave us any clearer picture of the nature of the 2 weapon tests other than from FT's description at least one test sounds like a FOBS tipped with HGV.

Only Zhao audience are confused, DoD is not. Zhao know nothing about what PLA is doing. Too much ridiculous and silly statement like "defy law of physic" or "we don't understand how they did this" coming from this FT article.

 

[Overbom]

Americans are reporting that China appears to have broken the laws of physics.

Thats next level scaremongering

Somehow China is so strong that it broke the laws of physics (lol), but also give us more money so we can win against a country that can break the laws of physics

Schizophrenia

 

[OppositeDay]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1451018534490976261

Reasonable analysis. I remember a few years back Americans were trying to nuclear blackmail China by openly claiming it’s hard to tell whether an AShBM carries a nuclear warhead, which obviously hints at American nuclear response if China uses AShBM against American carrier groups. I wouldn’t be surprised if that was what triggered China’s nuclear expansion and modernisation.

 

[escobar]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1451018534490976261

Reasonable analysis. I remember a few years back Americans were trying to nuclear blackmail China by openly claiming it’s hard to tell whether an AShBM carries a nuclear warhead, which obviously hints at American nuclear response if China uses AShBM against American carrier groups. I wouldn’t be surprised if that was what triggered China’s nuclear expansion and modernisation.

Another one

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1451139132651102208