China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread

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cmb=1968

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Re: A China Without Nuclear Weapons?

Ambivalent said:
My source was an unclassified briefing by the US Navy in the mid 1980's on nuclear developments world wide. They were as stunned by the material the Japanese had declassified just a year or two prior and passed to them. It showed far more progress on a workable nuclear weapon that anyone had given them credit for. Their program pre-dated the US entry into WWII and was within months of a workable bomb when an errant B-29 hit the wrong target and destroyed a facility critical to their effort. That one setback gave the US the opportunity to be the first to use nuclear weapons in combat.
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How come Japans still had Classified documents from WWII I thought that the US military Gutted Japans military industrial complex during the occupation?

Ambivalent might you be thinking about postwar attempts to develop nuclear weapons after the US stopped the Official occupation.

Ambivalent if you are sure what is your source?
 
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Ambivalent

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Re: A China Without Nuclear Weapons?

cmb=1968 said:
How come Japans still had Classified documents from WWII I thought that the US military Gutted Japans military industrial complex during the occupation?

Ambivalent might you be thinking about postwar attempts to develop nuclear weapons after the US stopped the Official occupation.

Ambivalent if you are sure what is your source?
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Yes, it was the unclassified part of some training I had. The fact that Japan had such documents squirreled away was a huge surprise to everyone. I still vividly remember all of us looking around at each other in the room in stunned silence.
 
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cmb=1968

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Re: A China Without Nuclear Weapons?

Ambivalent said:
Yes, it was the unclassified part of some training I had. The fact that Japan had such documents squirreled away was a huge surprise to everyone. I still vividly remember all of us looking around at each other in the room in stunned silence.
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Thanks what kind of training were you doing?
 
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EdT586

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Re: A China Without Nuclear Weapons?

There a lot of talk of China disarming the world, I think they are the enlightened ones and everyone else are Neanderthals !

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Violet Oboe

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Re: A China Without Nuclear Weapons?

Long term projections are always dangerous speculation and all that talk about nuclear disarmament is only just that. Especially Russia and France will never eliminate their nuclear arsenal since Paris would cease to exist as a significant power without her ´force de dissuasion´ and Moscow is not capable to conventionally defend a territory of more than 17 million km2 with a steadily shrinking population (possibly only around 100-110 million in 2050).

Most probably nuclear weapons will only dissappear after becoming obsolete just like battleships became obsolete after WW II. Currently science and technology are moving very fast and it is highly likely that sometime in the next three decades the US will introduce a new class of WMD being far more effective and controllable than the ´dirty old nukes´.

China should prepare for this scenario and achieve timely strategic parity with the US or Beijing will simply learn another time the hard way (after the Qing in 1840!) that being wealthy but militarily weak is the ultimate recipe for disaster.
 
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Ambivalent

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Re: A China Without Nuclear Weapons?

Total nuclear disarmament is a pipe dream. Here is why. Assume all the known current nuclear powers disarmed and did so completely and honestly. No more known nuclear weapons. Now, what happens if one nation somewhere cheats? Imagine some nation managed to make a half dozen or more nukes and kept these well hidden until an opportune moment presented itself. Think that's fantasy? Well, Sweden managed to develop a usable weapon and conduct ten underground tests without arousing suspicion. Now what? Or suppose a nation tried to cheat but raised suspicions. That nation could deny it to the hilt, but the seed of doubt is sewn. Would nations now rearm as a result. How about my first scenario, a nation that secretly developed a half dozen nukes. It comes into conflict with another nation and uses these nukes to blackmail or intimidate it's opponent.
What is more doable is significant reductions in nuclear arsenals. The existing nuclear powers are finding out that managing a huge number of aging nuclear weapons is exceedingly costly, and takes funds away from more urgent military needs. Bringing a nation's arsenal down to a couple of hundred nukes still buys it the security it needs. No one is going to be stupid enough to invade either the US or China with if the know a hundred nukes could land in their country, and if my notional cheater manages to hide a half dozen or more nukes from detection, the existing nuclear powers are not vulnerable to nuclear blackmail as they would be had they disarmed completely. It will also be easier to verify an arsenal of 100 or 200 nukes than it would to verify complete disarmament, and cheating on an arsenal of only 200, say to 225, by hiding a few, is not the end of the world either, but an attempt to cheat by hiding another 100 or 200 would be pretty difficult to get away with. Just my two cents.
 
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Delbert

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DF-41 Missile\

Does anybody had an idea if this missile project was still ongoing or canceled?

I hope to see China continuously develop this missile for an enhanced missile capabilities.
 
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