Can someone of the mod team reel Deino in?

He is ruining the atmosphere in this otherwise productive thread. His juvenile behavior is moderator unworthy @WebMaster @T-U-P @Bltizo @siegecrossbow @Jeff Head please take action against @Deino.

He has severe issues and is heavily biased towards anything to do with the Turkish MIC.

No he has not … at least not as long as you post reasonable explanations and not only a list of „we will this and that“ and anyone who does not agree is biased.

Don't get me wrong and even if you won't believe, no-one is against you or your beloved Turkey, but NONE of these claims makes sense and would you or TAI present a reasonable timeline, the situation would be different. Instead you present a collection of "have to" within the next 3-5 years, that are impossible: Not even the USA will have a supersonic air-to-air combat-capable UCA fitted with AESA, AI, ETOS and long-range AAMs within the next decade, even less one operational from an yet to define aircraft carrier.

But instead of arguing, you turn down any argument as "being biased" ... that's not really mature nor reasonable.

sequ said:

He is ruining the atmosphere in this otherwise productive thread. His juvenile behavior is moderator unworthy @WebMaster @T-U-P @Bltizo @siegecrossbow @Jeff Head please take action against @Deino.

He has severe issues and is heavily biased towards anything to do with the Turkish MIC.

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You reek of entitlement.

Aniah said:

You reek of entitlement.

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What's this all about?

Gatekeeper said:

What's this all about?

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Sequ, Deino, and other users, are arguing over the feasibility of Turkey's military industrial complex's (MIC) goals and ambitions. On one hand, Deino`s side believes that such goals and projections aren't possible and are being overhyped due to nationalism while Sequ's side believes it is doable due to foreign assistance and the MIC's cooperation with civilian sectors (I think).

sequ said:

He is ruining the atmosphere in this otherwise productive thread. His juvenile behavior is moderator unworthy @WebMaster @T-U-P @Bltizo @siegecrossbow @Jeff Head please take action against @Deino.

He has severe issues and is heavily biased towards anything to do with the Turkish MIC.

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Sorry to tell you, but Jeff Head passed away already.

And I agree with Deino that until turkey can actually have a product in operation, the questions will continue. Believing everything the MIC tells you is naive at best.

sequ said:

He is ruining the atmosphere in this otherwise productive thread. His juvenile behavior is moderator unworthy @WebMaster @T-U-P @Bltizo @siegecrossbow @Jeff Head please take action against @Deino.

He has severe issues and is heavily biased towards anything to do with the Turkish MIC.

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You have a problem with him having a different opinion than you?

Abominable said:

You have a problem with him having a different opinion than you?

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Its not the opinion itself he is entitled to, it but it's the way he acts juvenile in the thread and outright dismissing everything as a fantasy. It ruins the atmosphere in the thread drastically.

sequ said:

Its not the opinion itself he is entitled to, it but it's the way he acts juvenile in the thread and outright dismissing everything as a fantasy. It ruins the atmosphere in the thread drastically.

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Have you tried reading the Indian military thread or Chinese threads? This entire forum questions everything until proven with a photo or video.

sequ said:

Its not the opinion itself he is entitled to, it but it's the way he acts juvenile in the thread and outright dismissing everything as a fantasy. It ruins the atmosphere in the thread drastically.

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I try it again: no-one is against you or your beloved Turkey, but NONE of these claims makes sense and would you or TAI present a reasonable timeline, the situation would be different. Instead you present a collection of "have to" within the next 3-5 years, that are impossible: Not even the USA will have a supersonic air-to-air combat-capable UCAV fitted with AESA, AI, ETOS and long-range AAMs within the next decade, even less one operational from an yet to define aircraft carrier.

Similar Hurjet is not even flying (at best in 2023) but you are already claiming, a carrier capable variant could be possible in 2025! The same with an aircraft carrier ... But instead of arguing, you turn down any argument as "being biased" ... that's not really mature nor reasonable.