BRICS & New World Order Thread

luminary

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A great video that provides clarification on the "sur",
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SO NO SOUTH AMERICAN EURO?


Under the plan, the Brazilian real and Argentine peso would continue to exist, with the new tender targeted narrowly at trade. That's very different from, say, the euro, which is used for all kinds of transactions within the European bloc.

The tender would be used in clearing houses to execute trade payments between the two countries, helping in part to trim reliance on the dollar. That is key for Argentina, which is grappling with low foreign currency reserves after years of debt crises.

"This currency would not circulate within Brazil or Argentina. It's specifically to be a common denominator of trade exchanges,"
said Fabio Terra, professor of Economics at the Federal University of ABC.
The actual proposal is far more modest, observers said, but could go a long way to alleviating trade-related pains in the region.

So what is on the table?

Brazilian Finance Ministher Fernando Haddad told reporters that initial discussions focused on how to aid Argentina in buying Brazilian exports without drawing down its meager dollar reserves,
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, rather than creating a shared currency that would circulate in both countries.

So rather than a shared currency comparable to the euro, what is being discussed is the creation of a unit of account that would help facilitate trade, said Monica de Bolle, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, in a phone interview.

Trade between Brazil and Argentina is largely denominated in U.S. dollars. The problem is that Argentina doesn’t have much in the way of dollar reserves, so it has put in place a number of capital constraints, which has had a big impact on Brazilian exporters, de Bolle explained.

The best comparison would be special drawing rights, or SDRs, the supplementary foreign-exchange reserve assets created and maintained by the International Monetary Fund, she said. The value of an SDR is based on a basket of international currencies.

The value of any unit of account created by Brazil and Argentina could similarly be based on a basket of currencies, potentially including the Argentine peso Brazilian real and the U.S. dollar though that is one of many issues that would need to be worked out.

“This is a long-term effort…I would say they have at least a year’s worth of work on this, assuming they can keep the focus,” de Bolle said.
WHAT WOULD IT BE WORTH?

How the new currency would be valued is still to be debated, but the Brazilian government is looking at stablecoins as a possible reference, Galipolo told Reuters.

Digital stablecoins, pegged to an asset like gold, or major currencies such as the euro, pound, and U.S. dollar, have emerged as issuers seek to expand uses for digital currencies, which are generally unregulated and volatile.

"It is obvious that the real will have the greatest weight in the equation because it is the most liquid currency we have in the international market," Galipolo said.
MSM has started coping, so I'll take it as a sign the agreement's a good idea:
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Lula is wild. He's only 30 days into his presidency. I can't wait to see what's next.
 

ansy1968

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So far it looks like Lula pretended to be less pro-China during the election and flipped after he won

Opposite case of Marcos who pretended to be more pro-China before winning
Well Lula had experience a Jan 6 type coup, like Edrogan before him that will surely wake him up who are really his friends. ;)
 

chlosy

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So far it looks like Lula pretended to be less pro-China during the election and flipped after he won

Opposite case of Marcos who pretended to be more pro-China before winning
Marcos has been quite a disappointment. Same as voting for Robredo. Wondering how long the Marcos-Sara Duterte alliance will hold. I guess no big investments from China in the next 5 years.
 

tphuang

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This is a BRICS thread, please stop talking about Philippines.
 

tphuang

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Speaking of Brazil, a new air cargo service starting from Xiamen to Sao Paolo
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Interestingly enough, it's operated by Ethiopian air. I'm a little surprised that its hometown airline Xiamen Air is not involved with this.

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I don't know how much more local payment they are doing this year, but they are definitely pushing for greater usage this year. And that will help them purchase more natural resources in Yuan. The Yuan clearing center in Brazil should help.

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And of course, getting more countries to BRICS+ is a great way to not only have more neutral countries (if not outright favoring China/Russia) but also doing even more commerce in RMB.

Here is the list of countries looking to join BRICS+
Aside from Afghanistan, it's all good candidates.
 
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