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ansy1968

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That was a gigantic opportunity missed for china to launch a verbal salvo.
Hi Nobonita Barua,

This COVID and the deepening economic crisis had really shaken the American to the core. the insecurity had laid bare the rotten and broken system, They don't have the solution/tools to fix it and they are lashing out and the obvious target is China. the antithesis of the neo-liberal democracy.
 
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Nobonita Barua

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Hi Nobonita Barua,

This COVID and the deepening economic crisis had really shaken the American to the core. the insecurity had laid bare the rotten and broken system, They don't have the solution/tools to fix it and they are lashing out and the obvious target is China. the antithesis of the neo-liberal democracy.
That's true. But China could have upped that insecurity several notch with some great speech.
 

ansy1968

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That's true. But China could have upped that insecurity several notch with some great speech.
Hi Nobonita Barua,

If the target audience is the anglo saxon or christian worshipping country, forget about it. the word communist itself connote a negative / evil pretense. What the Western world are afraid of is that the Chinese system provide an alternative, it shattered the illusion of a facade western superiority. Shaming China is a way to limit the voices of all those countries that had been subjugated or will be subjugated. Its one way of extending hegemonic power.

My take on the subject, these collective attack by western block countries is a harbinger of things to come. That is the plan all alone, thankfully because of Trump, it make their moves obvious and uncoordinated. They had the template the Hundred years of national humiliation, for every Chinese either native born or overseas that event is inculcated in our national psychic. we will never forget that is why this containment policy will fail.
 

emblem21

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Hi Nobonita Barua,

If the target audience is the anglo saxon or christian worshipping country, forget about it. the word communist itself connote a negative / evil pretense. What the Western world are afraid of is that the Chinese system provide an alternative, it shattered the illusion of a facade western superiority. Shaming China is a way to limit the voices of all those countries that had been subjugated or will be subjugated. Its one way of extending hegemonic power.

My take on the subject, these collective attack by western block countries is a harbinger of things to come. That is the plan all alone, thankfully because of Trump, it make their moves obvious and uncoordinated. They had the template the Hundred years of national humiliation, for every Chinese either native born or overseas that event is inculcated in our national psychic. we will never forget that is why this containment policy will fail.
Hence that is why they must be careful, they have humiliated both Russia ( with the way they continually belittle there actions during ww2) and China (hundred years of humiliation) and kept reminding them of there desire to do so. Only problem now is that by there hubris and greed, they are now in a situation where there strongest nation is on the edge in regards to society, economic, health and even environmental issues forming a perfect storm that will sooner or later hit them with such force that a recovery isn’t going to materialise ever if they refuse to reflect on how there actions got them there.
Given how Trump has acted, not many nations are going to be willing to help America this time and also, many nations are going to want to revenge on America for everything they have done for the last century. And this time round, they will get what is coming to them.
 

Hadoren

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Unfavorable Views of China Reach Historic Highs in Many Countries

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Thought ?
There's an organization called Dalia Research that polled 124,000 people and
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, let's compare it with Pew Research:

China responded "well" to the COVID-19 crisis/China has done a good job dealing with the coronavirus outbreak
Dalia (German Pollster)Pew Research (America Pollster)
Canada4736
United States4031
Italy6951
Spain6549
France5944
Netherlands5342
Germany4341
Belgium5540
United Kingdom5137
Sweden4033
Denmark3626
Australia3925
South Korea2920
Japan3316


Dalia-Research_Democracy-Perception-Index-2020_China-vs-US.png

So what do we find?

The pollster in the nation engaged in a new Cold War against China finds bad results for China.

The pollster in another nation finds substantially better results for China.

Shocking. Absolutely shocking.
 

Nobonita Barua

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Hi Nobonita Barua,

If the target audience is the anglo saxon or christian worshipping country, forget about it. the word communist itself connote a negative / evil pretense. What the Western world are afraid of is that the Chinese system provide an alternative, it shattered the illusion of a facade western superiority. Shaming China is a way to limit the voices of all those countries that had been subjugated or will be subjugated. Its one way of extending hegemonic power.

My take on the subject, these collective attack by western block countries is a harbinger of things to come. That is the plan all alone, thankfully because of Trump, it make their moves obvious and uncoordinated. They had the template the Hundred years of national humiliation, for every Chinese either native born or overseas that event is inculcated in our national psychic. we will never forget that is why this containment policy will fail.
That's the catch.

It's not.

Several times i have mentioned here before, there is a reason US keeps bringing Xinjiang issue in front of everyone, but with a particular group of audience in mind.

This is the same group who has been on the receiving of freedom,free speech.
China should empower this particular group. Why not use their own tactic against them?
 

Gatekeeper

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Trump said he feels great and his Covid infection was a blessing from God. Lolll. He then said “he will make China pay a big price”. Let’s wait for this October surprise.
Everything he has done is to appeal to his voter base. 72 hours and he is already fine means he is the chosen one, an exceptional case given most covid hospitalisation took 2 weeks on average. It appeals to the hardcore religious voters. Saying "X has to pay" means again it is not their fault, not Trump's fault for his own infection, nor a failure of their nation's outbreak management strategy, it is an outsider factor that will be corrected in time. Again it appeals to those who cannot accept any criticism on the US political model.


Yes. And some people even accusing China is trying to assassinate Trump!

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Hadoren

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I just realized, on the Dalia table that I just posted:

Of the 14 actual countries that rated China worst, Pew polled 11 of them. They literally cherry-picked the 11 countries that most dislike China.

Typical American bs.
 
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Nobonita Barua

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I just realized, on the Dalia table that I just posted:

Of the 14 actual countries that rated China worst, Pew polled 12 of them. They literally cherry-picked the 12 countries that most dislike China.

Typical American bullshit.
Right?
Cunning democracy.

You always ask the question you want to ask in your words from the people you choose, you always vote on the topic that is likely to go in your favor.

Other way around & we have threat to interest & national security.
 

ansy1968

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Hence that is why they must be careful, they have humiliated both Russia ( with the way they continually belittle there actions during ww2) and China (hundred years of humiliation) and kept reminding them of there desire to do so. Only problem now is that by there hubris and greed, they are now in a situation where there strongest nation is on the edge in regards to society, economic, health and even environmental issues forming a perfect storm that will sooner or later hit them with such force that a recovery isn’t going to materialise ever if they refuse to reflect on how there actions got them there.
Given how Trump has acted, not many nations are going to be willing to help America this time and also, many nations are going to want to revenge on America for everything they have done for the last century. And this time round, they will get what is coming to them.
Hi emblem21,

The western narrative is becoming less relevant due to 1) distrust of government (thanks to Trump), 2) fake news perpetuated by MSM 3) social media and internet 4) China becoming more welcoming and open. The later part is the most important, no amount of propaganda will deceive what people had seen. China been quite and circumspect is another effective way, why give fuel to your opponent by acknowledging his opinion, it's just a waste of time and effort.
 
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