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Jeff Head

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Absolutely and that is a fine looking vessel, she looks like she will fly??? anybody want to venture a max cruising speed on this vessel?

Brat, the Australian Armidale Patrol Boats is similar in function and layout to the US Coast Guard Sentinel Class Fast Response Cutters.

Here they are to compare:


RAN Armidale Class Patrol Boat
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USCG Sentinel Class Fast Response Cutter
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The Sentinel class has a max speed of 28 knots, the Armidala class has a max speed of 29 knots.

Australia built 14 of the Armidal class for the RAN from 2005 to 2009. One has been retired due to a large fire that damaged most of the vessel in 2014.

The US is currently building the Sentinel class for the US Coast Guard. 12 have been delivered since 2012 and 58 are planned.

Both class vessels carry a 25mm chain gun as their primary armament backed up by 12.7 mm (.50 cal) machine guns.
 
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it's been discussed in the F-35 Thread, but:
New RAAF jets to be able to shoot back
AUSTRALIA'S new Lightning combat aircraft will be able to shoot back at enemy aircraft.
AIRCRAFT maker Lockheed Martin says there is no technical problem with aircraft's 25mm gun, although its computer software isn't yet complete and it hasn't been fully tested on the aircraft.

By the time these advanced aircraft enter operational service with the RAAF in 2020, the gun will be fully functional. But the US Marine Corps, which plans to field their first operational Lightnings later this year, won't start out with a working gun. Lockheed Martin Australia director of international business development, Graham Bentley, said despite media reports from the US earlier this month, there was no technical problem with the gun and no software glitches. There was an extensive test program and the US Marines, Air Force and Navy had decided what weapons should take priority for software integration, testing and certification. When fully developed, the aircraft will be able to field a gun and 10 different types of bombs and missiles. But US Marine Corps aircraft will initially be able only to fire AIM-120 missiles and drop laser and GPS guided bombs. "That testing of the gun will get into full steam mid-year our time," Mr Bentley told reporters. The Lockheed Martin Lightning joint strike fighter is an advanced combat aircraft with the RAAF looking to acquire as many as 100. The program has experienced technical problems, rising costs and delays. Because of aircraft's complexity and the protracted test program, computer software will be be delivered in various blocks, each providing additional capability. US Marine Corps aircraft will be deemed combat ready with what's termed software block 2B, which provides a limited war-fighting capability. Mr Bentley said the full gun capability would come with the final block 3F software, scheduled for delivery in 2019, a year before the RAAF plans to field its first operational Lightning aircraft.
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Right on, and what folks need to remember is that neither the B or C model have an internal gun but a gun pod. The USAF has the gun, it will be functional shortly after IOC, but with the outstanding AAMs available, it will be very lethal to bad guys long before that, doubt that at your own peril??
 

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HMAS Success refuels Italian guided-missile destroyer Andrea Doria

Naval Today said:
The Royal Australian Navy’s oiler and replenishment ship HMAS Success has been very busy lately, not only delivering vital fuel and other goods to warships operating in the Middle East, but also delivering key operational effects under the Canadian-led Combined Task Force 150 (CTF-150).

Captain Nick Stoker from the Royal Australian Navy is currently the Deputy Commander of CTF-150. He said:

"Multi role, highly capable ships such as HMAS Success can undertake a wide range of missions with great efficiency and flexibility.

For example, HMAS Success has provided outstanding support to counter-terrorism operations while continuing to deliver in her primary role as a replenishment oiler for Task Force 53."

HMAS Success is patrolling the Middle East’s busiest waterways in support of maritime security operations. The ship helps to ensure security, safety and freedom of navigation for commercial shipping in international waters, as well as building positive relations with local fishermen and merchants, developing CTF-150’s understanding of the maritime environment in the region.

HMAS Success is contributing to CTF-150’s focused efforts to intensify maritime security and counter-terrorism operations in order to deter and disrupt terrorist organisations from making illicit uses the seas to conceal their movements and funding.
 

SamuraiBlue

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Looks as if politics is shaking the tree again.

Australian PM throws submarine tender open to domestic shipbuilder

PERTH — Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott on Sunday promised the country’s state-owned shipbuilder the option to tender for a lucrative submarine contract, seeking to shore up support for his leadership ahead of a crucial party vote on Monday.
South Australian Liberal Party Senator Sean Edwards had made his support of Abbott’s leadership contingent on government-owned ASC Ltd, based in his home state, being allowed to tender for a job worth as much as A$40 billion ($31 billion).
Edwards told local media that Abbott had given his assurance.
“I’ve been in discussions surrounding the ability of Australian ship builders to be involved in an open, competitive tender which has been, up until today, something which the government has been somewhat reserved on,” Edwards told The Australian newspaper.
Abbott, who had previously pledged that the vessels would be built at the ASC, began backpedalling in July, signalling cost and schedule were paramount.....to read more
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I wonder what is going to happen if ASC is not able to deliver what they had promised after they are selected?
 

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Looks as if politics is shaking the tree again.



I wonder what is going to happen if ASC is not able to deliver what they had promised after they are selected?

Tony Abbot just survived a spill motion this morning but he is clearly been put on notice. The way Australian politics work is the next spill motion is when his job is truly at stake.

I have always said regarding the submarine program that some form of local build paricipation is necessary as a political cover. ASC is unfortunately the defacto partner and so how the program is structured is important in managing ASC's role that plays on its strength and avoid its weaknesses. There are some learnings from the AWD program that they can build on.
 

SamuraiBlue

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Tony Abbot just survived a spill motion this morning but he is clearly been put on notice. The way Australian politics work is the next spill motion is when his job is truly at stake.

I have always said regarding the submarine program that some form of local build paricipation is necessary as a political cover. ASC is unfortunately the defacto partner and so how the program is structured is important in managing ASC's role that plays on its strength and avoid its weaknesses. There are some learnings from the AWD program that they can build on.

Yeah, I kind of understand but it sounds as if the tail is wagging the dog.
 

Brumby

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Yeah, I kind of understand but it sounds as if the tail is wagging the dog.

I completely disagree. In this type of defence program, the government must take the initiative to set out the frameworks in terms of how this is going to happen, i.e. from design, selection, and program management. Once the process is laid out, the different stakeholders can then provide their input in shaping the program. Unfortunately with Tony Abbot, he thinks it can be done by fiat without the follow on framework in terms of how that is going to happen. Invariably it invites resistance and push back in the absence of clarity of process.

If the Soryu is selected, there are at least 3 parties that would be involved in the build i.e. Japan, ASC and the US systems people. Each has a role in it but the experience with the AWD project is that there were a number of mistakes in terms of role, project management and how each of the parties were meant to integrate their work into one coherent project plan. Hopefully people learn from mistakes.
 

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The rank amateurism and whimsy that underlines major decisions affecting Australia's national security was on full display recently, with Tony Abbott's pledge to wavering South Australian Liberals that the path forward for Australia's next-generation submarine program would be the result of a competitive tendering process, rather than Prime Ministerial whim in favour of acquiring Japanese Soryu-type boats from overseas.

This now-stymied Prime Ministerial thought-bubble is an example of the same process that gave rise to Abbott's notion of purchasing F-35Bs for the Canberra LHDs. It's the same process that gave rise to Kevin Rudd's suggestion of doubling Australia's submarine fleet to 12 units. It's the same process that, under 'Junior Sheriff' John Howard, committed us to the JSF program in the wake of 9/11. This particular Prime Ministerial whim has been thwarted by grubby politics, and that is a good thing, but many such decisions affecting Australian national security lack such engaged domestic constituencies and the nation bears the cost of the rank amateurism of those decisions to this day.
 
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Brumby

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This now-stymied Prime Ministerial thought-bubble is an example of the same process that gave rise to Abott's notion of purchasing F-35Bs for the Canberra LHD. It's the same process that gave rise to Kevin Rudd's suggestion of doubling Australia's submarine fleet to 12 units. It's the same process that, under 'Junior Sheriff' John Howard, committed us to the JSF program in the wake of 9/11.

What process are you exactly talking about? You seem to be alluding to a process that three different PM's had followed.
 
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