(ASK) How well trained are the pla special forces?


Equation

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Covering more than 1,000 square kilometers, Zhurihe has been the site of many major PLA exercises and international war games involving the PLA and foreign militaries.
That's twice the size of Ft. Hood, Texas US Army base!:eek:

A 340 square mile installation (214,968 acres), Fort Hood is the only post in the United States capable of stationing and training two Armored Divisions
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Hendrik_2000

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China airborne team win 11 out 12 competition. They are good Anyone know what is the make up of the airborne brigade and how many of them. In the last couple year they are provided with more support unit like mobile artillery and mortar and of course the IFV ZLC 2000


Ok I answer my own question this report below is outdated beyond repair. In recent year China did improve the strategic transport with new addition of Y 20 and new Y-9. this division is handy in any conflict with India beside the specialized mountain brigade. From Wiki

The
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Airborne Corps (the former PLA Air Force's 15th Airborne Corps ) (
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: 中国人民解放军空降兵军;
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: 中國人民解放軍空降兵軍;
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: Zhōngguó rénmín jiěfàngjūn kōngjiàng bīng jūn) comprises six airborne brigades. The PLA Air Force's Airborne Corps is China's primary strategic airborne unit and it is part of the newly formed rapid reaction units (RRU) of the Chinese military which is primarily designated for airborne and special operation missions. Its role is similar to that of the
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Only one of the Corps' three divisions can deploy to any part of China within 48 hours due to limited airlift capabilities. In the late 1990s the airlift capability of the PLAAF consisted of 10 IL-76 heavy lift, Yu-8, and Yu-7 transports, as well as
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helicopters. As such, the PLAAF could only lift one division of 11,000 men complemented with light tanks and self-propelled artillery. In 1988, there were reports claiming that a 10,000 man airborne division was transported to Tibet in less than 48 hours.

According to You Ji's "The Armed forces of China", the Airborne Corps has been elevated to the status of a strategic force. It is a departure from the PLA traditional airborne force concept. Doctrinal modernization change allows the Airborne Corps to act as a principal force employed for independent campaign missions in future wars. It is now accepted that the airborne troops should be used for pre-emptive attack on the enemy's key military targets in the rear area in order to paralyze or disrupt its preparation for an offensive. This kind of large-scale mission cannot be conducted without having a total control in the air. Also, a single-lift capability of 50,000 men is required for this type of missions. Currently, the PLAAF can only lift one division of 11,000 men with light tanks and self-propelled artillery.

In 2006 Dennis Blasko wrote that the Airborne’s headquarters is in
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, north of Wuhan in Hubei. The airborne divisions were located as follows: the 43rd Division stationed in
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, Henan (127th and 128th Airborne Infantry and 129th Airborne Artillery Regiments), and the 44th and 45th Divisions also in the Wuhan area at
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and
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More and more focus will be placed on helicopter assaults as opposed to traditional parachute drops. In times of war, the Airborne Corps can also utilize transport aircraft such as
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, and very large numbers of
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(700+) utility transports. During a number of exercises, the Airborne Corps has demonstrated it can move a regiment plus of paratroopers with light armored vehicles to anywhere within China in less than 24 hours. These exercises also show that a large number of para-gliders are in use.

The Airborne Corps' weapons inventory includes 50-100
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derivatives and 2S9 self-propelled mortars, large numbers of
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jeeps with 105mm recoilless rifles or
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, and Type 89 120 mm SP anti-tank guns. The last two weapon platforms are air transportable. Additional weapons include Type 84 82mm mortars, Type 85 60mm light mortars, Type 85 107 mm MRL, and more. In 1997, a new lightweight high-mobility vehicle entered service. Reportedly, up to ten of these vehicles can be carried by a Y-7H military transport. Paratroopers are outfitted with portable GPS systems,
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, radios and other high-tech equipment.

The Airborne Divisions have various special units, including weapons controllers, reconnaissance, infantry, artillery, communications, engineering, chemical defense, and transportation soldiers. Today, the Airborne Divisions have three regiments plus one light artillery regiment, which are further divided into battalions and companies.
 
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Dolcevita

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Chinese and Iranians commandos recovers 2 bodies and tanker's black box. Looks like the fire may be extinquish soon.


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Iran, China commandos heading for stricken tanker collision site
Sat Jan 13, 2018 03:19PM

This handout picture taken and released on January 12, 2018 by the Transport Ministry of China shows the Chinese firefighting vessel "Donghaijiu 117" spraying foam on the burning oil tanker "Sanchi" at sea off the coast of eastern China. (Via AFP)


Iran's minister of cooperatives, labor and social welfare says Iranian and Chinese commandos are heading towards the area where an Iranian oil tanker caught fire and is still ablaze following a collision in the East China Sea.

Ali Rabiei, head of an ad hoc committee tasked with following up on the condition of the tanker and its crew, said on Saturday that the Iranian and Chinese commandos would reach the area on Sunday morning local time.

He added that many ambiguities surrounding the incident would be resolved after the arrival of the Iranian and Chinese teams.

Pointing to operations to extinguish the blaze, he said two Japanese fireboats had arrived in the region while Tokyo has announced that it would dispatch two more boats.

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Iran has also hired three fireboats to put out the fire, Rabiei said, adding that they had been deployed in the area. Three other ships are also hired by Iran for logistic support, he said.

Iran, China FMs discuss flaming tanker

Also on Saturday, the foreign ministers of Iran and China discussed the latest developments surrounding the stricken Iranian oil tanker.

Mohammad Javad Zarif and his Chinese counterpart Wang Yi held a phone conversation after Chinese rescuers recovered two bodies and the "black box" from the tanker.

The top Chinese diplomat said his country's salvage team would make its utmost effort to extinguish the blaze.

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The bodies were discovered on the deck of the Panamanian-registered Sanchi oil tanker Saturday morning by the four-member rescue team wearing respirators.

The collision occurred between the Sanchi tanker and the huge Hong Kong bulk freighter, CF Crystal, 160 nautical miles east of Shanghai in the East China Sea on January 6.

The tanker, which was carrying 136,000 tonnes of condensate for South Korea, has been in flames since the collision.

Reports said 30 Iranian and two Bangladeshi sailors went missing after the collision. A total of three bodies have so far been recovered while the remaining sailors are still missing.
 
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Dolcevita

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Sanchi had sunk. RIP for the 32 crewman. Some details and pictures of the SAR operation.

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Rescuers boarded Iranian tanker SANCHI: 2 bodies found, horror live

Jan. 13, 2018 at 06:08 by
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Team of four Chinese rescuers boarded tanker
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at 0837 Beijing time Jan 13, they’ve been lifted to stern deck by a crane of offshore supply tug
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(IMO 9648570), deployed in
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rescue operation. They found bodies of two dead crew on lifeboat deck, they moved further and entered bridge, which was empty of people or bodies. Team wasn’t able to go deeper into superstructure, living quarters and engine room, because of too high temperature. At 0903 they returned to
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, taking bodies of perished seamen with them. Wind in the area is around 10 met/sec, waves 2 meters high. Some 9 or more vessels, deployed in rescue operation, are positioned near tanker. Photos of this first boarding of Iranian tanker remind a horror movie.

Previous news:
January 7, 2018 11:22 am:
Crude oil tanker
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collided with bulk carrier
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at around 1800 Beijing time Jan 6 east of Yangtze river estuary in East China sea sea, according to Chinese sources.
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loaded with 136,000 tons of crude oil was en route from Iran to Korea, while
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loaded with 64,000 tons of grain was en route from USA to Guandong China. Fire erupted on board of
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after collision, making rescue extremely difficult. There are talks and news about
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capsizing, but it’s highly improbably outcome, and according to latest updates tanker engulfed in fire is afloat. In the morning Jan 7 a fleet of SAR ships and patrol ships and boats was deployed in SAR. It is said, that
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32 crew are missing, but it doesn’t mean they are dead, most probably they can’t be rescued yet with such big fire raging on.
Cost of oil on
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board is estimated to be of some $60 mil.
No information as to collision details, most probably both ships are guilty, though in different proportions.
Bulk carrier suffered comparatively small damages, meaning that
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, most probably, struck
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Xinjiang PAP "hell week" endurance training with full equipment in -20 Celsius/-4 Fahrenheit environment. Useful for long tracking and pursuit of terrorists in the border region.

After pursuing a group of terrorists for 40 days the PAP surrounded and eliminated 13 terrorists in a firefight but 10 terrorists managed to escape. 12 days later the remaining terrorists were tracked down by their footprints and eliminated in another firefight.
 
That this only happened now is a sign of how slow the PLA has been at improving training.

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PLA Army conducts first assessment of its special operations forces
SourceChina Military Online
EditorLi Jiayao
Time2018-07-17

By Yang Qingmin and Xu Chunlong

GUILIN, July 17 (ChinaMil) -- The Army of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) concluded the first assessment and contest of its special operations forces (SOF) —“Ingenious Special Operations Soldier -2018” on Monday in Guilin, Guangxi Province.

During the 9-day assessment and contest, 870 SOF officers and soldiers from the PLA Army were divided into 4 categories of commanding HQ, detachment commanders, SOF teams, and SOF individuals and took part in the fierce competitions of 64 subjects, including interpretation of remote sensing image, multiple weapons shooting, and consecutive special operations.

The officer in charge from the PLA Army said, “The assessment and contest covered all basic and compulsory training subjects of the special operations of the PLA Army.” In order to test the effects of military training and warfare preparedness in a comprehensive and real manner, the participants are selected through recommendations and computer-generated random draw lots.

The contest focused on assessing and testing the commanding HQ's ability to effectively plan and use special operations forces, detachment commanders’ ability to command special operations, SOF teams’ ability to conduct operations, and SOF individuals’ stamina, skills, and intelligence.

The reporter saw during the contest, at a temperature up to 40℃, the SOF soldiers took part in 16 consecutive subjects including lurking at night, fast-roping from helicopter, driving in complex road conditions, and conducting sniper attacks and so on.

Organized by the PLA Army, the assessment and contest is the first of its kind for the PLA Army's special operations forces since the Army was restructured in 2015. The assessment and contest is aimed to select and train the top SOF soldiers and discover the problems with the SOF during its build-up and development.
 

vesicles

Colonel
That this only happened now is a sign of how slow the PLA has been at improving training.

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The devil is in the details. Note that in the last paragraph, it says “this is the first assessment of the PLA Spec Ops since the Army was restructured in 2015”. So this is the first assessment since 2015. It doesn’t mean it is the first ever. I guess all the reorganization messed them up a little. That’s why it took them close to 3 year to start the assessment thing again... my guess...
 

PiSigma

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That this only happened now is a sign of how slow the PLA has been at improving training.

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First assessment of this scale since 2015. Each unit is actually continuously assessed every year (for recruitment and retirement purposes). They might not assess every category, but they do try to fill gaps they find every year.
 

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