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Lethe

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I couldn't work out where to post this, so feel free to move it as appropriate.

I recently stumbled across
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article from the USNI 'Naval History' journal on the early (pre-1980s) PLAN and the ongoing relevance of that period today, which is well worth reading.

Looking at the footnotes, I see that the author makes extensive use of a 1983 book by US naval intelligence writer David G. Muller,
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, which I have now ordered. I lack detailed knowledge of this period and I'm sure I'm not alone in that. And as the USNI author points out, these matters are not only of historical interest, but are deeply entwined with issues that are still playing out today.
 
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grulle

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is it accurate to say that a few 055 destroyers can make short work of Taiwan's entire navy?
 

grulle

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I don't think it is that straightforward. Especially with their subs in the mix.
their WWII era subs? lol you've got to be kidding.

Taiwan's navy consists of 4 Kidd class destroyeers (very outdated) and a bunch of small frigates. I think 3 055 destroyers should be enough
 

voyager1

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their WWII era subs? lol you've got to be kidding.

Taiwan's navy consists of 4 Kidd class destroyeers (very outdated) and a bunch of small frigates. I think 3 055 destroyers should be enough
Destroyers are destroyers and subs are subs.

I would pick anytime in the day to have 4 destroyers visible as my opponent, than having a single "invisible" sub underseas.
 

Volpler11

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Northern, eastern, and southern theater command all got a fleet each. If the western theater command was to get a fleet of their own, where should it be based at?

Center command can get the space based fleet.
 

Tam

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Northern, eastern, and southern theater command all got a fleet each. If the western theater command was to get a fleet of their own, where should it be based at?

Center command can get the space based fleet.


There is a motor boat or patrol boat detachment in Qinghai lake.
 

ougoah

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Northern, eastern, and southern theater command all got a fleet each. If the western theater command was to get a fleet of their own, where should it be based at?

Center command can get the space based fleet.

Western theatre command is totally landlocked. Why would they want a fleet and what good is that? There is no sea and no land by the sea to defend using a fleet.

China has no desire or force projection capability to make use of a fleet in a conventional operation against India. If Indian Ocean and relevant straits are blocked for access, then that's a job for land based anti-surface capabilities and the PLAN. They also couldn't realistically do that diplomatically or economically without many other nations opposing whoever even begins to think about that. It's wildly impossible for US or India to block commercial shipping through those straits or harm Chinese shipping through Indian Ocean. It's against their own laws and international laws BUT if they were to somehow trump up some charges and do that, then it would be war. That'll be like China forcing a US customer to stop buying US exports. With them, might is right and they just need to justify it for the bleeding hearts but if they were to explore that option, western theatre would only need to launch nukes and mach 10+ projectiles around to destroy some key targets. If they escalate, they can eat a few hundred megaton warheads in retaliation. Very simple stuff.

Zero threat of Chinese shipping being comprehensively threatened in Indian Ocean. Zero threat of straits being shut (because world depends on it including Chinese shipping lol). They are getting around this by waging economic lawfare instead. Even if it came to a fight, there would be no need for a separate western theatre fleet. May as well put what would go into such a fleet into the rest of the eastern and southern ones. Don't forget that it would be China responding to aggression and attacks that threaten its wellbeing and sovereignty. It would have every moral and legal right to hit back harder than its been hit. Even the US wouldn't even imagine acting militarily aggressive for no good justification. They will need to build one to play their games in the Indian Ocean as well.
 

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