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tphuang

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Sea Dog said:
Name one person who is suffering as a result of criticizing President Bush. Just one. The facts are, you can't. Meanwhile, let's see you go to Beijing and call for Taiwan's independance. Let's see you go there with a poster of Hu Jintao with the word "CRIMINAL" painted on it. Yeah.....thought so.
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The Dixie Chicks.

hahha, in China, you will get your ass kicked by normal people if you say Taiwan should be independent.
 
Jeff Head

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tphuang said:
The Dixie Chicks.
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Ha...they aren't really hurting. They just changed their marketing from Country Western music, which is traditionally a very conservative group of people, to more pop and rock...where those views were more accepted.

But the media and the government didn't do this...it was the people. With freedom also comes responsibility and being willing to be accountable for what you say and do. They found their primary market at the time didn't much like what they were saying...so they switched markets...and they were free to do so.
 
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From the history channel: ok, in the 70s, there was a man named samuel byke. you may know him as the man who tried to kill nixon. before he actually tried to kill nixon, he hated him. at a bar, byke said some thing bad about nixon(not a threat). someone overheard and squealed, and the cia came and hassled him. he proteseted nixon in front of the white house(no threats), and again got hassled. he never really had a good jhob, and now found it even harder to get one.

just for interest...he tried to hijack a plane and crash it into the white house, but got thwarted by security. i wish he had suceeded. nixon was a basterd.


more...in the sixties, a man claimed he had seen aliens land, and he constantly talked about it. the government told him to shut up, but he didnt. he actully defied them and publicly announced aliens were real. he lost his job the next day, and his house burnt.

americans like to think they have th right to protest, but what happenend to kids who protested during vietnam? LBJ send the national guard to tear gas em, and later, many were killed.
china mistreats its tibetians? what about the u.s, and the 1950's and 60's? black people potesting for rights got jailed, had their houses vandalized, were attacked by police dogs, and often killed.

now, you may say this is the past of the u.s, but isnt tiananmen the past of china too?
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MIGleader your sense of American history is somewhat askew.

First off I myself being black know about the injustices against black people and people of color.

As for the protest against the Vietnam war. They were on going during the war. Much of the violence was instageted by the protestors. The National guard in Ohio did kill 4 protestors in 1970. But there were thousands of peaceful protest.

I never heard of Samuel Byke. I will have to look that up. I'm very filimar with attempts on Pres. lives. That name does not sound at all filimar.

edit..Ha Ha! I looked up Samuel Joseph Byck ..He was a nut with a history of pyscatric problems. No wonder I never heard of him. I was on the USS Midway at the time he hijacked a airliner.

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The statement about aliens landing and the man's house being burned down. sounds like an urban ledgend to me.

Tomorrow I could got to D.C. and protest peacefully infront of the White House.(with the proper permit) Cuss out the Pres. And go home. Nothing will happen to me. Do something similar in the PRC against the leader there. See what happens.

I do not like political discussions. I will not respond futher. Feel free to respond to my post. Thank you.
 
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MIGleader

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so you think if a few hundred peaceful protestors went up to tianmen in 06, the chinese would do the same thing again? they would first just tell em to leave, and then tear gas em. thats it.
 
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MIGleader said:
so you think if a few hundred peaceful protestors went up to tianmen in 06, the chinese would do the same thing again? they would first just tell em to leave, and then tear gas em. thats it.
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wach it! this isen't political forum to brash chinese government....
 
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