Now that USA is desperately trying to salvage the situation they have caused entirely on there own. The idea they can compete by having more children, when they can barely provide for there own right now is almost ridiculous in every sense of the world. Also, with the way they are letting people die to this virus/poverty gives me the impression they are trying to depopulate the nation instead and with the authoritarian way they are dealing with the national crisis, I am even more convinced that they are culling the population. Also, the general students in the USA are not interested in competing in intellect with others, hence they are pretty much screwed. The only way out of this quagmire is true leadership that emphasis's the ability to care for the people, not about making profits from war, this is something that neither Biden or Trump is willing to do since they only seem prefer to follow they same playbook they have rather then innovating which is something that a younger leader may have a better chance at, not a bunch of oldies that are in there twilight years.
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That's because Singapore doesn't pick fights with everyone like the US, Japan, India, Australia, the UK, Taiwan, Vietnam, etc. etc. etc.
There are three paths that are all fine:
Option 1). Give up the idea of becoming powerful, but maintain good relations with major powers.
Option 2.) Fight with major powers over things like territory and ego, but be powerful enough to win those fights.
Option 3.) Be both powerful, and maintain good relations at the same time. No problems.
There is only one path that is not good:
Option 4.) Be weak, but still pick fights with everyone. Commit suicide.
All I want China to do is avoid Option 4. Why is that so impossible? Literally anything else would be fine!
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
It's so impossible because no matter what China does, you interpret it as option 4. Nobody else here does. And unlike you, we're not ok with just anything but 4, namely not 1. China is actually at 2 now but will graduate to 3 when it outgrows America and nobody dares pick a fight with China anymore. However, it will forever remain 4 in your spineless Falun Gong bot logic.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
I'm still waiting for your list of accomplishments to show us all how you got it right and everyone should do what you say?
Don't underestimate the US.
US household wealth hits record despite coronavirus pandemic
American households' collective net worth climbed nearly 7% in the April-June quarter to $119T
Median U.S. household income rises 6.8% to $68,700 in 2019, poverty rate falls for fifth year
As far as the pandemic, it's mostly older people dying so it won't really have an impact on the US demographic profile in the long run. These older people are mostly no longer workers and were just a drag on the economy. Sure it's wrong, but it's not going to weaken the US. Also, the leadership of the US can just blame China no matter how bad it is, so it won't damage them either. The worse it is, the more China is hated, that's all it means.
Let's say you increase the population of the US by over a billion.
Despite you have a finite supply of:
Farmland
Rivers and Water tables to supply fresh water
China isn't picking a fight with anyone. Its more like others wanting to pick a fight with China. I do agree China should ease up on the SCS and conduct dialog with ASEAN.
India is hopeless because its productivity increases does not match with its population increase. Its headed towards internal turmoil and looks to outward distraction, aka aggressive with China. Right now, its covid cases has shot past over 100,000 new cases per day.
China, but also Japan and S. Korea should pass laws to limit people to working 40 hour work weeks, so they can have more leisure time, time to date and find mate, time to F*K to create more children, spend more time with family and hobbies. Giving people free time means more time for domestic consumption. Free time also equates to producing more entrepreneurship, and a domestic base that feeds this entrepreneurship, such as going to local restaurants.
Despite you have a finite supply of:
Farmland
Rivers and Water tables to supply fresh water
China isn't picking a fight with anyone. Its more like others wanting to pick a fight with China. I do agree China should ease up on the SCS and conduct dialog with ASEAN.
India is hopeless because its productivity increases does not match with its population increase. Its headed towards internal turmoil and looks to outward distraction, aka aggressive with China. Right now, its covid cases has shot past over 100,000 new cases per day.
China, but also Japan and S. Korea should pass laws to limit people to working 40 hour work weeks, so they can have more leisure time, time to date and find mate, time to F*K to create more children, spend more time with family and hobbies. Giving people free time means more time for domestic consumption. Free time also equates to producing more entrepreneurship, and a domestic base that feeds this entrepreneurship, such as going to local restaurants.
The reason why US household wealth increased is because they each got a $1200 hand out stimulus check.
And you are wrong that its older people dying. Younger people are also dying. Li Wenliang was only 31 years old when he died. There was another Wuhan doctor that died only at 29 years old.
Those that survived are left maimed, particularly with cardiovascular related issues.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
You missed the point; you're looking at details and forgoing the big picture. And even the details are there for you to gloat about only because the US government manipulated stocks and gave out trillions of dollars in hand outs. (And by the way, it's so sad and paints such a frail picture that $1,200 in handouts had such a big effect on American family net worth.)
The damage from the pandemic to the US is firstly, the GDP contraction, which it will eventually recover from, but it buys China time to grow more. By the time the US recovers, where will China be? Not where it was at the beginning of the pandemic, that's for sure.
Secondly, old or young, 200,000 deaths is nothing in a population of 330 million; it's the incompetence that the world sees in America that is the damage. And that is amid a backdrop of Chinese success. Even Americans overwhelmingly lack confidence in their leadership and see the blame as a ploy to distract against their own failures. Americans should hate China and Chinese should hate America; that's a superpower rivalry, not a basketball game among friends so no love lost there.
Finally is the biological damage. Long term damage in young people who were affected and survived is going to be a drag on the health system and on their lives. There are people with permanent brain and organ damage from the oxygen depravation who will spend the rest of their lives not chasing dreams or innovating but finding ways to get by and live in less pain. With such a huge infected population, America's got its hands full with these fellas.
Nobody expects COVID to be the magic bullet that slays the US. But it's a hurdle, one that China cleared with flying colors but made the US eat pavement. So the competition is very much on, but it gave China a legs up and depleted America's edge, and America is desperately clinging to its ever-thinning edge like the Cookie Monster to his last bag of Nabiscos.
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Indeed.
If the population increases three times to over a billion, yet there is no proportional increase in the food supply, arable land, water supply---rivers, water tables --- all these things that can be decreased and destroyed by climate change and fracking. Nor is there any increase in jobs created because entrepreneurship across the US is being destroyed by the Amazons, Walmarts and by pandemics.
In order to assure every mouth will be fed, has a roof over the home, gets a job, you're going to be nationalizing the entire food supply to assure proper distribution to feed every mouth, embark into a massive government infrastructure product to build homes, and create state owned enterprises to create jobs.
All that is obviously Socialism and Communism.
Yesterday I realised that the Trump slogan of America First is actually wrong. If the Trump admin really is about America First, they would have impose ld a thorough lockdown much earlier on, the US Senators wont be so worried for the pontential impact on SP500/Nasdaq index over the lives of Americans. The true slogan is in fact, America(Hegemony) First. They mistook maintaining hegemony as the core interest of America. Either that or what the politicians really care for is their hegemonial tool.