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horse

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LOL.

Xi Jinping will just declare war on a few more countries.

Someone worse than Adolf Hitler in every way could be president of the US and the world will still rally around it against China since China is determined to start fights with everyone no matter what.
Can you provide examples of that, how many fights China has started.

After that, then we should compare that number to how many fights 1) the Americans are currently militarily involved, and 2) how many additional fights the Americans have virtue signalled.

The only other requirement, is we use a standard counting method, like using our fingers and toes. We will not use a BLM counting method, nor a white Liberal counting method, or a US conservative counting method, all of which counts what they want to count, such as votes with hanging chads and Covid-19 cases numbers.

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styx

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The reality is that 4 more years of Trump is actually better for China compared to four more years of Biden. While some may dispute this, the fact remains that Trumpian administration is focused on wielding Hard power while Biden Admin would prioritize soft power and Coalition approach.

The later could complicate things for China a lot. The former, while it would affect China a lot, could lend China more voice in Global Stage.

The George Floyd protests and Armed militias are just examples. The reality is that the sickness within the country could get worse by a set of trigger events and chain reactions that could send the country down the rabbit hole of instability and malaise. By 2050, the demographic shift would become more concrete and bring with it many more sociopolitical eruptions.

While many American supporters point to China's demographic issue (an issue of population numbers), the reality is that American racial demographics is a worse threat. One is just economical (and could be managed to some extend), the other is multidimensional.

This decade (2020 to 2030) is going to be one of turbulent changes. Nothing is off the table. A decade that'll be remembered that for sure.

Biden is wost of china only if you think that china is 100% antagonist of usa. I'm not sure of this.
 
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gadgetcool5

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Well he's right that having a high population will lead to greater weight and power in the long run. One of the U.S. greatest weaknesses is that it has only 5% of the world's population. Thus it relies on its massive network of allies and vassals to maintain its position. If those were ever dislodged, the U.S. position would be gone and they are keenly aware of that.
 

Tam

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Well he's right that having a high population will lead to greater weight and power in the long run. One of the U.S. greatest weaknesses is that it has only 5% of the world's population. Thus it relies on its massive network of allies and vassals to maintain its position. If those were ever dislodged, the U.S. position would be gone and they are keenly aware of that.

Not when they are increasingly poor, reduced spending power, lacks proper social net and healthcare, and competing against tightening supply. That's also why I think India isn't going anywhere or be a superpower.


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gadgetcool5

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Not when they are increasingly poor, reduced spending power, lacks proper social net and healthcare, and competing against tightening supply. That's also why I think India isn't going anywhere or be a superpower.


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Singapore is increasingly rich, has a proper social net and healthcare, and has plenty of supply for its trade position. Yet it is not a global power, because it is too small and has a tiny population.

High population is not a guarantee of being a superpower certainly, but it is a requirement.
 

Tam

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Singapore is increasingly rich, has a proper social net and healthcare, and has plenty of supply for its trade position. Yet it is not a global power, because it is too small and has a tiny population.

High population is not a guarantee of being a superpower certainly, but it is a requirement.

Who cares about being a global power? Having a population that is happy, secure and orderly comes first. Singapore may not be a global power but for a city nation, it pulls far more its weight. '

Like you have no idea what happens if a country increases its population base ahead of its economic growth. What happens is that you get a nation eternally mired in miserable poverty, leading to civil unrest and disorder. For example, Pakistan has an incredible economic growth rate of 5.50% per annum, but because its birth rate is ahead of that, it remains a very poor nation because of low income per capita.

Your economics suck. No economist would ever agree on such a preposterous proposition.
 
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