All newType-59 thread


FORBIN

Lieutenant General
Registered Member
The number have clearly decreases remains 1300 + 1100 B/D with 105 mm on 7500 tanks.
 

PeoplesPoster

Junior Member
Why? modernised T-59 is still good enough against 80% of the potential enemies

You always have limited resources, so use it wisely is the way to go ... you don't need a howitzer to kill a rabbit :p

At this point it's probably more expensive to maintain these antiques than purchasing all new vehicles.
 

Skye_ZTZ_113

Junior Member
Registered Member
I am not familiar with maintenance costs for the Type, but from the point of view of replacing parts-there are a great many of the same/similar model being decommissioned every year. These would be used for scrap if the entire fleet was decommissioned. Unfortunately, there is also the issue of a great deal of munitions for the 100mm cannon sitting around-a problem the Russian Federation had too following the breakup for the SU, albeit on a much larger scale. Thankfully, the PLA did not make the mistake of trying to mass-adapt IFVs with 100mm cannons, as BMP service history in Chechnya/ M1128 in Afghanistan etc. have proven this to be a terrible idea.

At the end of the day, one can never be too sure that these vehicles will never be needed. There would be a large gap in the PLAGF's tank arsenal to replace, and as others have pointed out here; a tank is still a tank. It still outclasses contemporary IFVs like the Stryker and Bradley for comparison.
 

ahho

Junior Member
I don't think having 100mm IFV was a bad idea. The IFV was meant to provide direct fire support and anti armor (mostly other IFV). I think the issue, was that it was directly deployed in high density area where even tanks are having trouble navigating through without being hit.

Back on topic, I am wondering if they have tried to put in APS for Type-59.
 

Miragedriver

Brigadier
I am not familiar with maintenance costs for the Type, but from the point of view of replacing parts-there are a great many of the same/similar model being decommissioned every year. These would be used for scrap if the entire fleet was decommissioned. Unfortunately, there is also the issue of a great deal of munitions for the 100mm cannon sitting around-a problem the Russian Federation had too following the breakup for the SU, albeit on a much larger scale. Thankfully, the PLA did not make the mistake of trying to mass-adapt IFVs with 100mm cannons, as BMP service history in Chechnya/ M1128 in Afghanistan etc. have proven this to be a terrible idea.

At the end of the day, one can never be too sure that these vehicles will never be needed. There would be a large gap in the PLAGF's tank arsenal to replace, and as others have pointed out here; a tank is still a tank. It still outclasses contemporary IFVs like the Stryker and Bradley for comparison.

Very similar to the Soviet T-55. They were loved by their crew because of there simple maintenance.
 

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