2026 Israel-US vs. Iran conflict [Military updates/News Only]

_killuminati_

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It makes it difficult, 80 targets (all true) every time.
The problem is, well, had Iran a more proper military IRBMs, those refueller bases would've turned into Zoroastrian shrines, radically reducing blue ability to bomb Iran in the first place.
I don't see how that relates to cluster munitions.

US bombers are flying in from Chania and beyond, maybe even Ramstein or even as far as US mainland itself. That ability isn't fading any time soon.


yeah, this ain’t deescalating, despite the best efforts and high profile resignations in the Trump White House.
Surely, Israel knows Western civilization is in decline, and while they've squeezed this civilization for their own benefit, there isn't much juice left anymore. Meaning, whatever goals Israel had remaining, it must push through NOW before there's nothing left of the West to squeeze = more blackmail by Israel to goad Westerners into this and any conflict.

Best case scenario for Israel/US now is for Iran to split into several different states ruled over by militants/warlords. But even then there is no guarantee that they would be hurling missiles at Israel/Gulf States. Worst case would be Iran surviving and going nuclear.
Unlike Syria and Libya, Iran does not have major (and poweful) separatist factions that could split. Iraq had more serious separatist tendencies - Sunni vs Shia vs Assyrian (Christian) vs Kurd - yet the state remained intact after decades of war.

I spoke to an Iraqi Shia clergyman and he said: despite the strong Shia dislike for Saddam (who was Sunni), they now reminisce being ruled by him because he kept the country stable without much sectarian conflict.

It appears just having local US presence/interference is enough sometimes to unite opposing factions.

Kurd faction in Iran was US' plan but they seem reluctant to be part of this conflict. Recent reports suggest US trying to prop up the Luristani Arabs (who are a tiny minority). Baloch separatists have been pretty quite. I don't see any faction or minority group in this conflict stepping up. The biggest driver of this development is most probably the involvement of Israel - a state that nobody in the region trusts.

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Check whats happened at the last crisis. the curve went back from the extreme.

This time it will ballance itself most likelly.
Last crisis did not have production facilities being bombed out. It's a different scenario now.

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High gas prices only benefits the US big oil and their backers, while screwing over everyone else and driving the inflation up. Unlike China or Russia, American oil isn't owned by the USA nor by Americans, but by corporations. Hence the only thing Biden could do in 2022 was open up the oil reserves.
Doesn't the price of everything have a tipping point beyond which it is no longer profitable (with people unable to purchase)? Domestic unrest and local crime might increase in response.

Since we know US gathering ground troops, do we have any guess where they are going? It is very unlikely a major invasion will work. Small raids were tried but not succesful. If I have to guess they might deploy around Iran to fight Shia militia instead of Iran itself?
Most likely from Kuwait (already built staging ground at Camp Buehring from Iraq War) into southern Iraq and southwestern Iran's Luristan province to control the oil & gas fields.
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Probably because there are no cluster munitions being used, what we are seeing is just flares being used as penetration aids.
 

MortyandRick

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These assassinations basically show that Iran still has a lot of moles that are still not accounted for. They need to find out these moles and get rid of them asap.

Overall even though they're hitting critical infrastructure in the region, they're not hitting Israel as hard as I like to see them do like Haifa plant or the desalination plants. They really need to take the gloves off otherwise they're not trading equal blows and they're going to take more damage over time. it's probably unsustainable especially with these assassinations.
 

Gloire_bb

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I don't see how that relates to cluster munitions.

US bombers are flying in from Chania and beyond, maybe even Ramstein or even as far as US mainland itself. That ability isn't fading any time soon.
Tanker planes and tactical aircraft(majority of sorties, as well as enabling sorties for bombers) are flying from the relative neighborhood.
If it would be down to strategic bombers alone, situation pretty soon will go Ukrainian way.
 

FriedButter

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Exclusive: US weighs military reinforcements as Iran war enters possible new phase​

WASHINGTON, March 18 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's administration is considering deploying thousands of U.S. troops to reinforce its operation in the Middle East, as the U.S. military prepares for possible next steps in its campaign against Iran, said a U.S. official and three people familiar with the matter.

The deployments could help provide Trump with additional options as he weighs expanding U.S. operations, with the Iran war well into its third week.

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Those options ‌include securing safe passage for oil tankers through the Strait of Hormuz, a mission that would be accomplished primarily through air and naval forces, the sources said. But securing the Strait could also mean deploying U.S. troops to Iran's shoreline, said four sources, including two U.S. officials.

Reuters granted the sources anonymity to speak about military planning.

The Trump administration has also discussed options to send ground forces to Iran's Kharg Island, the hub for 90% of Iran's oil exports, the three people familiar with the matter and three U.S. officials said. One of the officials said such an operation would be very risky. Iran has the ability to reach the island with missiles and drones.

The United States carried out strikes against military targets on the island on March 13 and Trump has threatened to also strike its critical oil infrastructure. However, given its vital role in Iran's economy, controlling the ⁠island would likely be viewed as a better option than destroying it, military experts say.

Any use of U.S. ground troops - even for a limited mission - could pose significant political risks for Trump, given low support among the American public for the Iran campaign and Trump's own campaign promises to avoid entangling the U.S. in new Middle East conflicts.
Trump administration officials have also discussed the possibility of deploying U.S. forces to secure Iran's stocks of highly enriched uranium, one of the people familiar with the matter said.

The sources did not believe a deployment of ground forces anywhere in Iran was imminent but declined to discuss specifics of U.S. operational planning. Experts say the task of securing Iran's uranium stockpiles would be highly complex and risky, even for U.S. special operations forces.

A White House official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said: "There has been no decision to send ground troops at this time, but President Trump wisely keeps all options at his disposal.

"The president is focused on achieving all of the defined objectives of Operation Epic Fury: destroy Iran's ballistic missile capacity, annihilate their navy, ensure their terrorist proxies cannot destabilize the region, and guarantee that Iran can never possess a nuclear weapon."

The Pentagon declined to comment.

The discussions come as the U.S. military continues to attack Iran's navy, its missile and drone stockpiles and its defense industry.

The U.S. has carried out more than 7,800 strikes since launching the war on ‌February 28 ⁠and damaged or destroyed more than 120 Iranian vessels so far, according to a factsheet released on Wednesday by the U.S. Central Command, which oversees the roughly 50,000 U.S. troops in the Middle East.

U.S. CASUALTIES

Trump has said his goals go beyond degrading Iran's military capabilities and could include securing safe passage through the Strait and preventing Iran from developing a nuclear weapon.

Ground forces could help broaden his options to address those goals, but carry significant risk. Even without any direct conflict in Iran, 13 U.S. troops have been killed so far in the war and about 200 have been wounded, although the vast majority of the injuries have been minor, the U.S. military says.

For years, Trump has railed against his predecessors for getting involved in conflicts and has vowed to keep ⁠the United States out of foreign wars. But more recently he has refused to rule out the possibility of "boots on the ground" in Iran.

A senior White House official told Reuters that Trump has various options for acquiring Iran's nuclear material but has not decided how to proceed. "Certainly there are ways in which it could be acquired," the official said, adding: "He hasn't made a decision yet."

In written testimony to lawmakers on Wednesday, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard said Iran's nuclear enrichment program had been obliterated by strikes ⁠in June and the entrances to those underground facilities had been "buried and shuttered with cement."

The sources said the discussions on U.S. reinforcements go beyond the arrival of an Amphibious Ready Group next week in the Middle East, with an attached Marine Expeditionary Unit that includes more than 2,000 Marines.

But one of the sources noted that the U.S. military was losing a significant number of forces with the decision to send the USS Gerald R Ford aircraft carrier to Greece for ⁠maintenance after a fire on board the vessel.

Trump has also oscillated on whether the U.S. should secure the Strait of Hormuz.

After initially saying the U.S. Navy could escort vessels, he called on other countries to help open the key water way. With little interest from allies, Trump on Wednesday mused about simply leaving.

"I wonder what would happen if we 'finished off' what's left of the Iranian Terror State, and let the Countries that use it, we don't, be responsible for the so called 'Strait?,'" Trump posted on Truth Social.
The sources said the discussions on U.S. reinforcements go beyond the arrival of an Amphibious Ready Group next week in the Middle East
But securing the Strait could also mean deploying U.S. troops to Iran's shoreline, said four sources, including two U.S. officials.

More reinforcements coming beyond the marines. The invasion of Iran is already in the works and we all know how the ladder will be climbed.

Step 1) Occupying the Iranian Shoreline to protect the ships
Step 2) Occupying the Iranian Mountains to protect the troops protecting the ships
Step 3) Occupying the Iranian Interior to protect the troops who is protecting the mountains
Step 4) Occupying the Iranian Capital to protect the troops deep in Iran.
 

TPenglake

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Since Iran's main weapon in this war is economics, I think in addition to the tactical situation in the Middle-East, its important to keep track of the effects of the blockade on Asia, which relies heavily on Gulf oil.

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FriedButter

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In a letter posted to X, National Counterterrorism Center Director Joe Kent said that Iran posed "no imminent threat" to the US and claimed the administration "started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby".

My condolences to the former director of counter terrorism impending funeral and immediate cremation shortly after.

 

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More reinforcements coming beyond the marines. The invasion of Iran is already in the works and we all know how the ladder will be climbed.

Step 1) Occupying the Iranian Shoreline to protect the ships
Step 2) Occupying the Iranian Mountains to protect the troops protecting the ships
Step 3) Occupying the Iranian Interior to protect the troops who is protecting the mountains
Step 4) Occupying the Iranian Capital to protect the troops deep in Iran.

Step 1) deal with mines, anti-ship missiles and drones.
Step 2) get mowed down by artillery, drones, cluster munitions, mines, and machines guns
Step 3) Get bog down in the shores with supply lines cut in the strait. Almost certain death
Step4) Pete dreams when he is pass out drunk

This is not a video game.
 
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