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Will Iran-Israel conflict start again?


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gd47

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Iraqi pro resistance account with links to the PMF, posted and pinned the number "6" in Persian (Farsi) several hours before CENTCOM announced that a KC-135 crashed in Iraq, it was also clarified today that 6 crewman died in the incident related to the KC-135 crash

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Not sure if already discussed, but looks like the 2 tankers weren't refuel capable, so no daisy-chain theory, raises the likelihood of either direct or indirect combat damage....However, even if the Iraqis shot it down, how would they know there were 6 on board? That isn't the standard crew, right, and surely the chaos of the blast would've made body recovery quite difficult (given only 4 have been found so far).
 

Faisal Iqbal

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All six crew members confirmed dead in US military refuelling plane crash in Iraq

The Guardian

All six crew members on board a US KC-135 military aerial refuelling plane that crashed in western Iraq yesterday have been confirmed dead
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USCentcom, who had earlier today said that only four of the six had died, again made clear that the crash was not caused by hostile fire or friendly fire.

The identities of the members who died are being withheld their families can be notified, USCentcom said.

This plane was Ithe fourth US aircraft lost since the US and
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began launching strikes against Iran on 28 February. Three US air force fighter jets were mistakenly shot down in a friendly fire incident by Kuwait air defences earlier this month. All crew members in those jets ejected safely.

Seven US troops have been killed in the conflict, while as many as 150 US troops have been wounded. The death toll in
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is more than 1,300, according to the country’s UN ambassador.

Both Donald Trump and the US defence secretary, Pete Hegseth, have warned that the Iran war would probably claim more American lives before the conflict ends.
 

Mmmeeeto

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Not sure if already discussed, but looks like the 2 tankers weren't refuel capable, so no daisy-chain theory, raises the likelihood of either direct or indirect combat damage....However, even if the Iraqis shot it down, how would they know there were 6 on board? That isn't the standard crew, right, and surely the chaos of the blast would've made body recovery quite difficult (given only 4 have been found so far).
Well it says the post was edited, so you can ignore it completely anyway. Although it did turn out that 6 crewman died after the incidents
 

iewgnem

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I don't know if you just ignored physics class, but if you believe that an object with the mass of such an aircraft, traveling at such speeds, would instantly lose all of it's momentum and essentially stop mid air, then I can't help you. Not to mention that the engine getting blown off would have ripped the wing off, which in turn would have induced a rolling motion and a loss of altitude essentially immediately. Which in this case would have meant that the aircraft would have dove in front of the trailing one. Which makes it impossible to clip the vert stab.

Again, just because you want something to be true, is no excuse to discard logic and reason.
Oh I am very familar with aircraft dynamics from what I do for a living.

Cruise power is typically 75%, losing one out of 4 engines gives the equivilent of an instaneous loss of 25% thrust (equivilent to the following aircraft instaneously increasing throttle to 93%) its actually the fastest way for the two aircraft to close in on each other compared to waiting for turbine spooling.

KC135 length is 43m, cruise speed is around 260 m/s, a drop in speed of just 10% will cause a 26 m/s speed delta between two aircraft in formation giving only 3 second of reaction time after factoring in decel rate before the two are right above/below the other

Compare this to the probability of a pilot with plenty of sleep slaming throttle then hold altitude for thr 10+ seconds for no reason.

And no the wing wont come off from a engine nacel strike from behind, engines pylons are designed to sheer off and this has happened before.

But loss of speed will cause a drop in altitude which does not help with avoiding collection with another aircraft behind and below you.

Oh and keep in mind the tanker would be flying on autopilot the entire time, while the receiver most of the time would also be.

If it was the nose that had damage then it would be a collision, but tip of vert stab is an extremly difficult place to make come in contact with another plane, I dont think you're full grasping just how low the probability of this is without any unplaned external disturbance.
 

AlexYe

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The 'aura of invincibility' or 'psychological dominance' is part of deterrence. That's why US and Israel spend so much effort covering up their own losses. And rubbishing Chinese and Russian kit too.
Yep, but that 'aura' has begun to bite back , they are now afraid of posting losses as they see it as image-failure, even though losses in a war are part of it
Outright sinking it would result in the escalation ladder blowing up.
Sinking carriers-naval ships esp with modern damage control is hard, causing some damage on it is honestly enough
That is why I do not like how the Iranians are fighting this war. Iran should have hit Israel harder, 2x to 5x times as hard. They look like they are wimping out the Iranian leadership.
Nah Israel is toooo protected, you gotta realise that right now not only AD's are protecting israel but the whole
'We are sending ships to cyprus-medsea' ALL those ships are also helping shoot down missiles, there are like 3-4 layers there.
Plus they keep getting resupplied from not only europe but Southkorea too.5x times harder. People like China and Russia cannot trust Iran if it does not have the right stuff.

Dozens injured in missile attack on Israel
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Dozens of people have been injured after missiles hit a village in northern Israel in the early hours of Friday, Israel's emergency services says.

The Magen David Adom ambulance service (MDA) said paramedics treated 58 patients and took them to local hospitals after the strike in Zarzir, near Nazareth.

A woman who Israeli media said was injured by shrapnel was in a moderate condition, while MDA said 57 others were "in very mild condition from glass shards, with minor injuries".

The Israeli military said members of the Home Front Command have been sent to the scene.

"The forces are conducting a situational assessment at the scene in co-operation with emergency and rescue authorities, in order to clear the scene," the Israeli military said in a statement.

"The circumstances of the incident are under review," it added.


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This was mostly Arab village and curiously, didnt launch interceptors at it..
Non jewish folk dont have access to shelters, they arent built in non jewish villages etc.
China remains an economic power, but the U.S. has military, economic and political power. It is using all these elements to reshape the world. This is not a jazz improvisation — it is a harmonious melody that is helping to attain peace through strength
That line and Em-dashes show that this was witten by Ai not the person, they didnt edit it
Damn, thats brave as fuck but very very scary and Hmm still no Mojtaba, i think he is hospitalised or even dead but being kept as a psychological thing
One thing this war has shown is western forces bleed like everyone else.
'DO you bleed..?'
iranians are a little too willing to martyr themselves
Consequences of being Shia
Please tell me this headline is a joke, holy
'PLEASE PRESIDENT SEND US THE LPG SHIPPING, ALLOW OUR SHIPS THROUGH'
Iranian president : Sorry dog, IRGC Naval command aint listening to us
He was on the verge of tears, he def got yelled at , probably because he recently said USN will soon begin escorting ships
 
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