2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

CrazyHorse

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It was predictable. Iran simply cannot engage in serious military hostilities against the U.S. without sustaining lopsided damage.

Barring Israeli obstinacy, at this point de-escalation is likely the name of the game.
Yeah, like I’m not sure what people want from Iran. Iran doesn’t have enough missiles to “wipe out US forces in the region”.
 

tamsen_ikard

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Yeah, like I’m not sure what people want from Iran. Iran doesn’t have enough missiles to “wipe out US forces in the region”.
If the 30 thousand missile statement from Netanyahu is true, then do most certainly do.

I actually think Iran can easily defeat the US in the middle east because US simply doesnt have the stomach to take losses in a pointless war in the middle east. They are worried about Asia. So, US will have to back down if they are taking too many losses or have to use too much if their valuable missiles and planes.

But Iran probably doesn't want a all out war yet.
 

Sheleah

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So far Iran is doing better than expected, given that they were taken by surprise by the Israeli attack. Both sides (Iran and Israel) are hurting, and both are trying to de-escalate without losing face. Of course, if the US mounts a concerted airstrike against Iran, they would be in much deeper trouble, but for various reasons, the US does not seem willing to go all out against Iran for the moment.

If the war starts to wind down, then Iran can count it as a win, and hopefully make wiser decisions in the future.

There is no comparison between the current situation between Israel and Iran.... Israel has achieved many of its military objectives, while only receiving minor damage to civilian infrastructure.... its military capability has not weakened, while Iran is just struggling, with its military structure destroyed, its top brass killed, and damage in every way.

Iran hasn't caused any damage to Israel, which is enough to play for a draw... they are losing badly.
 

siegecrossbow

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If the 30 thousand missile statement from Netanyahu is true, then do most certainly do.

I actually think Iran can easily defeat the US in the middle east because US simply doesnt have the stomach to take losses in a pointless war in the middle east. They are worried about Asia. So, US will have to back down if they are taking too many losses or have to use too much if their valuable missiles and planes.

But Iran probably doesn't want a all out war yet.

We are not seriously taking everything BiBi says to be fact are we? He also claims that Iran is perpetually 5 years away from getting nuclear weapons…
 

obj 705A

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this was a very pathetic attack. they struck empty dirt somewhere in the western desert in Iraq. they also fired just 6 missiles at Qatar all of which have been intercepeted.

the only thing Iran achieved with this strike is end any sympathy it had in the Arab world. Arab countries condemned the US/Israeli strikes on Iran and Iran responded by striking Arab countries even though the US didn't use it's mid east bases. if the Ayatollahs thought severing relations with the Arabs for the sake of delivering this face "saving" strike is worth it to maintain legitimacy among the Iranian general public then they are mistaken because the Iranian people will see how this strike achieved nothing.

if this is the best Iran could do then they shouldn't have done it. they should have just focused on Israel and forgot about the US. and if they felt like they have to do something against the US to save face without harming the US then they should have just targeted an American ship or something with a single missile (which would be intercepted) to avoid demonizing themselves infront of the Arabs.
 

tamsen_ikard

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There is no comparison between the current situation between Israel and Iran.... Israel has achieved many of its military objectives, while only receiving minor damage to civilian infrastructure.... its military capability has not weakened, while Iran is just struggling, with its military structure destroyed, its top brass killed, and damage in every way.

Iran hasn't caused any damage to Israel, which is enough to play for a draw... they are losing badly.
I think Iran maybe lost more tactically. But they have won a great victory strategically.

Iran's revolutionary govt has been vindicated for chanting death to America and israel for the last 50 years. They have shown US and Israel are the existential enemy of Iran.

The fact Iran suffered all these sanctions for so many years and still kept going with its nuke, missile and independent arms program is vindicated.

Pretty much all opposition to IRGC has been silent, public support restored.

Iran got a handle on all the mossad agents inside their country. I am sure they will slowly root out most of them.

Finally, they now have clear justification to go for nuclear weapons and the world will not able to oppose it.

Tactically, I said before, if Iran can hit 1 target for every 10 israel hits, it's still a victory. Cause Iran has strategic depth and they already don't have much economically. But for Israel, every hit is a blow to the dual citizens confidence to stay in Israel. Many will leave. That's a death blow for Israel.
 
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