2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

AlexYe

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Are those debris or missiles? Why do they come down so slowly, and they look burning?
Sorry I dont have any idea why they look slow like that, could be the distance is great, taken from reaaally far so the speed relatively looks slow vs how it look closer.

There is the Mizrahi Jew - migrants from Iran and Iraq - which comprise a significant chunk of the Israeli population (+40%). Iran still has some Mizrahi that did not leave. You can see then how infiltration into Iran works. Infiltration into Israel is probably through the 2 million Arab population of Israel, some of whom serve in the IDF, or.. Iranians pretending to be Mizrahi and possibly having migrated to Israel as moles.

Indians don't speak Pashto which is very common in Pakistan, and only a few of them speak Punjabi which is even more common in Pakistan.
There are like 9000-10000 Jewish people still in iran, but I am sure Mossad has had years to train infiltrators to learn the Farsi language, the culture and all that.
And there is indian punjab too, but yeah no variant of pashto or sindhi or balochi and other sub-variants of languages.
 

CrazyHorse

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Sorry I dont have any idea why they look slow like that, could be the distance is great, taken from reaaally far so the speed relatively looks slow vs how it look closer.


There are like 9000-10000 Jewish people still in iran, but I am sure Mossad has had years to train infiltrators to learn the Farsi language, the culture and all that.
And there is indian punjab too, but yeah no variant of pashto or sindhi or balochi and other sub-variants of languages.
You don’t need to go to minority groups to find a lack of loyalty. Look at most Iranian diaspora in the west, many are zionists.
 

xyz4321

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IDF drone shot down over Iran (video). Interceptor launched from the air?
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Smoke rising at Ben Gurion airport (Tel Aviv)
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Irani missile fragment fell in Iraq
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IDF jettisoned fuel tanks that crashed in Syria
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Hypersonic missile? From clouds to earth in a split second,
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There are like 9000-10000 Jewish people still in iran, but I am sure Mossad has had years to train infiltrators to learn the Farsi language, the culture and all that.
And there is indian punjab too, but yeah no variant of pashto or sindhi or balochi and other sub-variants of languages.
Many Mizrahi in Israel (especially older generation) kept their Farsi.
 

AlexYe

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There must be lots of calls happening between us and israel right now,
IDF drone shot down over Iran (video). Interceptor launched from the air?
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Smoke rising at Ben Gurion airport (Tel Aviv)
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Irani missile fragment fell in Iraq
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IDF jettisoned fuel tanks that crashed in Syria
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Hypersonic missile? From clouds to earth in a split second,
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Many Mizrahi in Israel (especially older generation) kept their Farsi.
Lots of tanks, huh they arent completely exploded like the one from Kashmir region, that one was blown open.
These look pretty intact
 

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Alright since its been a whole day now of this operation we can go over the results and outcomes. So far, it does not seem like Israel has achieved its strategic goals of pulling the US into the conflict, and Iran seems keen on keeping it that way, hence the complete silence of the PMFs in Iraq. They will likely have to escalate from this point forward given their inability to sustain this operation indefinitely. They need the US involved to take out Iran’s nuclear program, and only by backing the Iranian regime into a corner and forcing them to escalate can they achieve that.

Tactically, I’d say its pretty much a lopsided Israeli success. I dont think I need to rehash what the Israelis achieved with the strikes but to me its striking how disrupted C2 was for the Iranians. The fact that they were unable to bring their AD into play for the longest time, giving the Israelis complete dominance of their airspace is an indictment on how badly they were hit. In terms of the Iranian response, while they did score hits, I’ve yet to see any signs that they dealt the kind of damage that would prevent any Israeli retaliation. Indeed, we’ve seen Israeli jets immediately launch strikes in Iran in between missile salvos. The Iranians seem to mostly have been aiming for static, symbolic targets (ie Israeli MOD) rather than engaging in dynamic targeting. Goes to say something about their ISR and guidance systems. I’ll also say that there does seem to be a bottleneck on the amount of BM launchers Iran have due to Israeli sabotage and strikes, forcing them to launch numerous smaller salvos rather than larger ones that are more likely to overwhelm Israeli AD.

Looking to the future, its in both side’s interest to convince the other that they can keep up this operational tempo indefinitely, or long enough to deal grievous damage. For Iran I do think they should keep up the strikes and pressure hopefully to a point where the US steps in and pushes Israel to a ceasefire. Backing down is no longer an option, Iran should not be looking for any off ramps. Israel is intent on forcing a death by a thousand cuts, and if Iran lets them get away with this unscathed the next one on the chopping block will be Khamenei himself.
 

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