2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

ACuriousPLAFan said:

I'm actually glad that China neither provided any sort of military support/aid nor form any military partnership/alliance in West Asia/Middle East. The only things China do with her military presence in the region are the anti-piracy patrols around Somalia and the peacekeeping forces in Lebanon under the auspices of the UN.

No matter how hard the calls for China to "step in, become the responsible big brother, and salvage XXX situations" - If those country's people themselves don't want to help themselves, then what's in for China to help them?

Besides, it's not like Iran is chummy with China either. The Iranian people even jeered at the Chinese people with the "Ching Chong Chang" types of racist slurs, all while licking the West despite being slapped in the face multiple times - All while China is one of the only few countries that are keeping the country afloat in amongst those crushing international sanctions. Remember that Chabahar Port deal with India in order to "counter China's Gwadar Port in Pakistan"?

Just go take a look around the military-watching discourse on Weibo - They don't exactly have a positive, flowery view of Iran, way before today's Israeli strike. "伊朗要升旗了" and "伊朗变成了筛子" are not phrases of complement.

I'd say this - Iran better gets its sh1t together, stop the "we wuz" kanging sh1t, and actually be humble in their dealings with China. Otherwise, good luck.

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FairAndUnbiased said:

yes but with reservation. Russia also infiltrated Ukraine to the same degree - or so they thought. Turned out most of their assets were double agents or were purged in the first few weeks of the war, and now it is 100% purely conventional inside Ukraine. And it also turns out that Ukraine has assets inside Russia too.

China has a more robust internal security system than Russia but is facing a bigger threat too.

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ACuriousPLAFan said:

I'm actually glad that China neither provided any sort of military support/aid nor form any military partnership/alliance in West Asia/Middle East. The only things China do with her military presence in the region are the anti-piracy patrols around Somalia and the peacekeeping forces in Lebanon under the auspices of the UN.

No matter how hard the calls for China to "step in, become the responsible big brother, and salvage XXX situations" - If those country's people themselves don't want to help themselves, then what's in for China to help them?

Besides, it's not like Iran is chummy with China either. The Iranian people/discourse even jeered at the Chinese people with the "Ching Chong Chang" types of racist slurs, while licking the boots of the West despite being slapped in the face multiple times - All while China is one of the only few countries that are keeping the country afloat in amongst those crushing international sanctions. Remember that Chabahar Port deal with India in order to "counter China's Gwadar Port in Pakistan"?

Just go take a look around the military-watching discourse on Weibo - They don't exactly have a positive, flowery view of Iran, even way before today's Israeli strike. "伊朗要升旗了" and "伊朗变成了筛子" are not phrases of complement.

I'd say this - Iran better gets its sh1t together, stop the "we wuz" kanging sh1t, and actually be humble in their dealings with China. Otherwise, good luck.

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sheogorath said:

It doesn't, though. If they cared that much about trade, their pager attacks that showed how compromised production lines in Asia can be wouldn't have been carried out.

They will turn on you at the slightest inconvenience to their interests and they don't do compromises unless it is at gunpoint (1982, 2006). Also they are open supporters of ETIM and they look up to Israel as well, what do you think will happen when they face the slightest push back from China?.


Like I said, too much attachment to a one off that has already been paid back for and currently holds no value as Israel can't provide anything of value anymore in that regard.


It is a double edged sword. You would think China would have learnt that lesson after getting Color Revolution'd anyway despite doing Kissinger's biding in South East Asia in exchange for more open trade.

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Iran’s FM submits letter to UNSC​

Abbas Araghchi has submitted a statement to the UN Security Council ahead of a meeting that is reported to be taking place later today on the subject of Israel’s attacks.
Here are the key points Araghchi made:

• These heinous acts not only constitute a grave violation of Iran’s sovereignty and territorial integrity as a sovereign Member State of the United Nations, but also constitute acts of aggression and war crimes under international law and international humanitarian law, including the Geneva Conventions.
• Israel, the world’s most terrorist regime, has crossed all red lines, and the international community must not allow these crimes to go unpunished.
• The Security Council and the secretary-general must condemn this aggression and take immediate and unequivocal action.
• Failure to respond will only embolden the aggressor, reward impunity, and fuel further chaos in an already fragile region.
• The Islamic Republic of Iran reaffirms its inherent right to self-defence, enshrined in Article 51 of the UN Charter, and will respond firmly and proportionately to these unlawful and cowardly acts.
• The Islamic Republic of Iran will act with determination to protect its sovereignty, its people, and its national security. This right is non-negotiable.
• Israel will deeply regret this reckless aggression and grave strategic miscalculation.

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Randomuser said:

I used to admire the Russian approach and think China was being a pussy for not being like them. But it turns out trying to intervene directly too many times will just cause you to burn out faster like the USSR. I think this direct approach is a trap the west has laid out and one of the reasons the west is so frustrated with China is it does not operate that way and take the bait.

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