2025 Israel - Iranian conflict
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No, Iran, and the US said they happened.
why do you think that a surrender will be (truly) accepted at all?
Did Gaddafi's "pivot toward denuclearization and normalization with the U.S." result in Libya becoming a great power or a shithole?
What about Assad?
Iran could target US bases in middle east，which the US has alot
Iran decided to cut its losses with Soleimani, Hamas, Hezbollah and timidness lead its enemies to become confident enough to strike.
They followed your advice, and looked what happened.
When the United States claims that you have nuclear bombs, you'd better really have them.
That's the alleged image making rounds on social media. You will have to wait if you want satellite image.
It means that idiots in the government like Khamenei have to be deposed and more focused leaders must take their place - nothing would have happened if Iran actually had a nuclear bomb or if at least their intelligence services were functional. Denuclearization means that Iran will be chopped up by Israel and the US.
The attack signals to everyone that nuclear weapons are a must, not that they should denuclearize. Actually, that lesson was evident from Libya, but I guess Iranian leadership is not good at learning on mistakes of others.
Iran has been defeated, but its problems are not over yet. In real life there's no referee to stop your opponent from kicking you when you're down. Once you lose your leverage, you don't even have surrender to negotiate.
Asian countries like China, India, Pakistan and North Korea were willing to eat grass to have a weapon and just sprinted towards the goal with no hesitation. Every one was under sanctions until the west gave up. It really does take that kind of national willpower. The reason was precisely that if they did not sprint towards a weapon, this sort of shit will happen.
It is use it or lose it. Once you start, you can't stop or go back. Not obeying that fundamental principle is what got Iran to this.