2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

zyklon

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Seems they also have not invested in long range cruise missiles.

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Not familiar enough with Israeli missile programs to enumerate what's missing from the above list, but that's definitely an incomplete catalog of Israeli cruise missiles.

Though it is worth noting that the IAF has been moving away from subsonic ALCMs in favor of supersonic ALBMs like the Rocks, Air LORA and Sparrow platforms.

According to the
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, one version of the Sparrow designated the
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, and has in all likelihood repeatedly fired against Iranian targets these last several days — has an estimated maximum range in the ~2,000km ballpark

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Regardless, the Israelis do tend to understate, if not largely remain mum in public about the effective ranges of a number of their missile systems. One reason for this is to make it more difficult and expensive for adversaries to assess certain Israeli capabilities, but the other reason for this is so Israel doesn't get slapped on the wrist diplomatically for violating the MTCR — which it isn't technically even a party to — every time it exports something that might blur the lines of what's permissible.


Are they holding back for a possible US attack?

That looks like an ICBM in flight.
 

texx1

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More IAEA updates about IAF strikes on Iranian enrichment program. From nuclear scientists to underground enrichment sites and now to centrifuge production manufacturers, Israel is systematically attacking every component of Iranian nuclear program.


Some good news for Iran. IAEA has also lost track of Iranian near bomb grade uranium stockpile.

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Sinnavuuty

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Some images showing F-35I Adir and other IAF aircraft being refueled.

The IAF reported today that since the start of Operation Rising Lion, more than 600 aerial refueling operations have been carried out. 600 operations in just 5 days gives us an idea of the intensity of the air operations that Israel is carrying out against Iran!

Just to give you some context, the distance between the borders of Israel and Iran is about 1,000 km in a straight line, however, the fighters have to maneuver in airspace that, although relatively safe, is still contested. In addition, the fighters take off with their maximum bomb load, which ends up reducing their fuel carrying capacity.
 

Sardaukar20

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Not sure why people think the Iranian regime is going to collapse, even if the US joins, short of a ground invasion. Saddam Hussein stuck around for 10 years after Desert Storm. Unless the US has some rebel proxy they can use for ground force, airstrikes alone hasn't toppled any regime.
I don't think that the Iranian regime will collapse anytime soon. But I do feel that they are in deeper trouble than they care to appreciate. The US and Zionists are out to destroy the Iranian nation if they cannot own it. The Iranian regime could still exist as a holdout in a portion of Iran and continue fighting. But by then, Iran itself will cease to be a force in the Middle East. The Islamic Republic can continue fighting for decades, yes. But they could be reduced to the state of the Houthis in Yemen. I do hope I'm wrong about their fate.

As for the ground invasion. The US and friends would be more than happy to send in the same terrorists who had chopped peoples' heads in Syria instead of setting their own boots on Iranian soil. They have removed the regimes of Libya and Syria already using this method. There are plenty of idiots who would cry crocodile tears about the genocide in Palestine, but would readily fight to take the Ayatollah's head. The US and friends would not be short on expendable foot soldiers.

Bruh, is China becoming your Aladdin or something?

China had offered its hand to Iran many times. Iran has an important place in the BRI. However for whatever reason, Iran had chosen to prioritize dealing with the West, Qatar, Turkey, Russia, and even India over China. This is grave a mistake that is decades in the making. A fatal mistake in my opinion. I do not enjoy nor want to see Iran fall to the US and the Zionists, but this is the cold hard reality that I'm watching unfold. The war is still not looking good for Iran. If Iran still cannot wake up by this point, then nobody can save them.
 

Maikeru

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I don't think that the Iranian regime will collapse anytime soon. But I do feel that they are in deeper trouble than they care to appreciate. The US and Zionists are out to destroy the Iranian nation if they cannot own it. The Iranian regime could still exist as a holdout in a portion of Iran and continue fighting. But by then, Iran itself will cease to be a force in the Middle East. The Islamic Republic can continue fighting for decades, yes. But they could be reduced to the state of the Houthis in Yemen. I do hope I'm wrong about their fate.

As for the ground invasion. The US and friends would be more than happy to send in the same terrorists who had chopped peoples' heads in Syria instead of setting their own boots on Iranian soil. They have removed the regimes of Libya and Syria already using this method. There are plenty of idiots who would cry crocodile tears about the genocide in Palestine, but would readily fight to take the Ayatollah's head. The US and friends would not be short on expendable foot soldiers.


China had offered its hand to Iran many times. Iran has an important place in the BRI. However for whatever reason, Iran had chosen to prioritize dealing with the West, Qatar, Turkey, Russia, and even India over China. This is grave a mistake that is decades in the making. A fatal mistake in my opinion. I do not enjoy nor want to see Iran fall to the US and the Zionists, but this is the cold hard reality that I'm watching unfold. The war is still not looking good for Iran. If Iran still cannot wake up by this point, then nobody can save them.
Perhaps it's a religious thing? If you're a fanatical Shia zealot - as the Iranian regime are - you'd prioritize relations with:

1. Heretics (Sunni);
2. Infidels (Christians); then
3. Heathens (Buddhists, Hindus, etc.)

in that order.

Edit: People of the Book entitled to dhimmi status, those who shirk are lowest of the low (apart from apostates):

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Sardaukar20

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Are they holding back for a possible US attack?
They have reduced their missile launches from hundreds to single digit launches per day. This is not an encouraging pattern. Even if they are saving up missiles for the US, a single launch a day is not enough to keep the pressure on Israel. Especially after what they have promised to do to Israel. At this rate, I'm afraid that they might actually stop launching missiles soon.
 
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