2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

Sinnavuuty

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where is Hezbollah now? Hezbollah has been neutered. Hezbollah is just sitting and watching giving no fks.
Iran and Hezbollah are like helpless chidren when compared to the Houthis and Hamas. Hamas cannot be killed because at this point Hamas is in the heart of every Palestinian especially those in Gaza. the Houthis on the other hand are true warriors unlike Hezbollah which folded after the death of Hassan Nasrallah.

Iran is much more similar to Hezbollah and is nothing like Hamas or the Houthis. Iran spent the past decades hiding behind the proxies thinking these proxies are it's shield.
in reality Hezbollah has been neutered.
the Houthis while brave are sperated from the battledfieled by the sea and the KSA so they can only disrupt shipping but cannot engage fully in this battle.
Hamas/Palestine is in a fight for it's life. they are the ones waiting for someone to help them not the other way around.
and in Iraq those pro iran militias have been utterly eaten and hollowed out by corruption. their main mission is to buy as many luxury cars and expensive appartments as possible. the Kataib Al-Escalade, Asaib Ahl Al-Lexus, and Saraya Al-Tahoe will not sacrafice their extravagant lifesyle.
Iran is a country and Hezbollah is at most a political entity. The comparison with Hezbollah was in the sense of dismantling the entire organization, which simply did not happen. Hezbollah still exists even with the elimination of its top leadership. Killing Khamenei would literally solve nothing. Israel preaches this doctrine of eliminating leadership, believing that it will change something, but it does not change much in strategic terms, because someone else always takes over and they cannot always count on a leadership that is more convenient for those who want a change of leadership.

Furthermore, even non-state organizations like Hamas, Hezbollah and others, with the elimination of their leaders, the organization still continues. What makes you think that if Khamenei were dead, Iran would fall? Someone else would take over Khamenei's power and continue the chain of command. There is nothing to suggest that Iran would be defeated if the top leadership were eliminated, the Russians don't even believe that, because they know that someone else takes their place, while Ukraine kills the Russian military leadership and someone else always takes their place and yet Ukraine continues to be defeated on the battlefield.
 

AlexYe

Junior Member
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It seems questionable if US talks with Iran was all a ruse so Israel can make a sneak attack like some believe. Why? Because what's delaying the US from joining in now? The big sneaky part would be the US was bombing also from nearly the start. It's more likely that Israel started it to prevent any further talks between the US and Iran. Some even said that Iran might already have a nuke. All the more important that the US get involved immediately so it's never used.
The plan was 9 months in the making, Even Biden admin knew but passed it off to trump admin to decide, the 60 days, the attacks starting on 61 days. Its too linked not to be intentional.
Iran has repeatedly said they dont want nukes, US own intelligence in march concluded the same thing that they arent working toward it,

The 'Iran is X close to nuclear' is a mantra being repeated since the 80/90s.
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But trump kept changing terms and began going for 'no enrichment at all not even for your own nuclear plants/ other needs'.
 

iewgnem

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I believe that if the US does get involved, it will be in the form of strikes carried out by aircraft (fighters and bombers) along with ship based weaponry. Planning an invasion of Iran would be a MASSIVE undertaking and would likely take a year if not more the get the forces needed to do so in place for an invasion. Everything we have seen so far seems to indicate some form of strikes comprising of air and ship based assets.
Like against Houthis just 2 month ago?
People really memory holed that defeat real quick huh.
 
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