09III/09IV (093/094) Nuclear Submarine Thread

[Maikeru]

3 bay, so fitted with the wider rails

170m to 180m is way bigger than any 094 variant and way bigger than any SSN. Maybe PLAN went for 09VI before 09V.

Edit: Ohio and Columbia classes are both ~170m.

Also if this is 09VI it almost certainly means the rumours of 2x09IVB were wrong.

 

[Tomboy]

Do the new bays build SSBNs or to date only SSNs?

 

[sunnymaxi]

170m to 180m is way bigger than any 094 variant and way bigger than any SSN. Maybe PLAN went for 09VI before 09V.

095 is already under construction so maybe simultaneously construct 096 as well..

 

[TopolMSS27]

I'd just like to reiterate here that it could be nothing. I ummmd and errrrd about whether to say anything.

 

[TopolMSS27]

AIS i will still post.

Currently in the eastern graving dock - 31st Oct 2025 0720 UTC

Bo Tuo 1 Hai + Bo Chuan Chuang Ye (from now on called BT1H + BCCY)

Historic tracks show they left the piers around 0026 UTC (as normal). They entered the dock around 0242 UTC after dealing with the dock cassions - and still in there.

Activity suggests removing a sub.

No sat imagery available.

Update on the tugs.

Last contact with them was just before 1200 UTC, still in the dock. (Though they do show on AIS still)

As all the other ships/tugs are pinging away around them, they've either gone dark or engines off.

 

[TopolMSS27]

As of this morning 1 November at 0247 UTC, both tugs still in the dock.

The 093B that departed the other day hasn't returned so either out on a long trial, or that's it away for good.

094 has also confirmed departed.

 

[TopolMSS27]

Just a quick update on the situation here.

8 November 25 - latest 30 cm imagery available.

The tugs are still in the east graving dock, which has been drained. Only they are in there, with the gantry crane over them.

So, it looks like it is a maintenance break for them.

Can't see any action elsewhere.

Nothing coming out of the east halls for a while yet.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

The Google Earth satellite imagery of the Huludao Shipyard has been updated till November 8th. Posted by @foolsball on Twitter.

There are several new buildings observed on the eastern side of the shipyard (circled in yellow).



In addition, one 093B SSN and one 094A/B SSBN are seen undergoing fitting-out work at the shipyard.

 

[bebops]

There were pictures of 039c circulating on the net. Is 039c on par with Virginia early block? It seems to focus on angles, rudder shape. Increase stealthiness

 

[Tomboy]

There were pictures of 039c circulating on the net. Is 039c on par with Virginia early block? It seems to focus on angles, rudder shape. Increase stealthiness

Depends on how much of the original 093 is left in the design. Original 093 was a pretty garbage ship that was mostly only designed for the sole purpose of keeping engineers employed.