055 Large Destroyer Thread II

grulle

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Haha I just want to point out that I don't recall seeing this picture of the 9th 055 anywhere on this forum. Had to google search "9th 055 DDG" and go to reddit to see it. You guys are slacking:p


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ACuriousPLAFan

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Haha I just want to point out that I don't recall seeing this picture of the 9th 055 anywhere on this forum. Had to google search "9th 055 DDG" and go to reddit to see it. You guys are slacking:p

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Or maybe you just aren't bothered to have a look around?
First unit of the 2nd batch is in the water being fitted out.

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FYI, this photo has already been posted in this very thread all the way back in early January this year.

You're late.
 
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FairAndUnbiased

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My view is that China needs begin to divest from these largest manned platforms and start to invest more in unmmanned systems in the air on the surface and under the water. In the short run these platforms will be force multipliers and in the long run they will dominate the battlefields.
The manned platforms have advantages which are necessary and decisive.

1. Able to process more sensor data from radar and sonar in real time and translate that into tactical commands. There is no AI that has been shown capable of generating command capability from radar and sonar data.

2. Stealth with cooperation because you can run on LOS communications only with 0 radio emissions. AI does not exist that can make cooperative decisions under RF emission control or even on when to enter such a state.

3. Able to deploy and maintain reusable sub assets like helicopters and towed sonars. There is no AI that has shown itself capable of deploying another AI asset under rough weather conditions, recovering it, them performing maintenance on it.

Stuff like speedboats and helicopters are good for making unmanned. Destroyers are a terrible candidate for making unmanned. Destroyers may be good for deploying UAV helicopters and USV speedboats though.
 

grulle

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Or maybe you just aren't bothered to have a look around?

FYI, this photo has already been posted in this very thread all the way back in early January this year.

You're late.
ohhh nice nice. Weird I never saw that even though I have been checking the forums every few days for the last 3 months and reading all the posts. That's why I thought this picture was never posted.
 

by78

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A better version of a previously shared magazine scan, and it also means another previously posted image likely has a PSed hull number based on its wonky spacing.

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ACuriousPLAFan

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The launch of the 1st second-batch 055 DDG at Dalian (10th overall) might be close.


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Satellite photo of the Dalian Shipyard at Dagushan taken today (26 March 2024) by the Sentinel 2 satellite.

Have a look at that barge - Seems like a ship that roughly fits the dimension of a 055 DDG is being carried on top of it.

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Both the large and small drydocks have been empty for some time, and the location of the assembly hall underneath the shed looks empty.

Is the 10th 055 DDG launched? Further verification required.
 
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cdcywlau

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Satellite photo of the Dalian Shipyard at Dagushan taken today (26 March 2024) by the Sentinel 2 satellite.

Have a look at that barge - Seems like a ship that roughly fits the dimension of a 055 DDG is being carried on top of it.

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Both the large and small drydocks have been empty for some time, and the location of the assembly hall underneath the shed looks empty.

Is the 10th 055 DDG launched? Further verification required.
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ACuriousPLAFan

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Satellite photo of the Dalian Shipyard at Dagushan taken today (26 March 2024) by the Sentinel 2 satellite.

Have a look at that barge - Seems like a ship that roughly fits the dimension of a 055 DDG is being carried on top of it.

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Both the large and small drydocks have been empty for some time, and the location of the assembly hall underneath the shed looks empty.

Is the 10th 055 DDG launched? Further verification required.
Another photo

Latest update - Seems like the 10th 055 DDG at Dalian had just been moved to a smaller drydock right beside the assembly hall where it was once assembled prior to launch, instead of being docked pier-side for post-launch fitting out.

That means the 10th 055 DDG hasn't been actually launched.


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HardBall

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It seems that the West are focusing a certain amount of energy in the next several years on setting up operational capabilities on large scale saturation attacks using with low observable missles. You can see thing like that in using LRASM pallets in thing like rapid dragon.

Do you know or can surmise what types of counters does PLAN have on their DDGs and FFGs, in order to optimize against such threats. These would be munitions that would get very close , maybe a dozen NM or so before you can track on x-band sensors. Are ther plans, e.g. to have additonal 1170 CIWS, or additonal HHQ-10 launchers on the type 055?

Another solution could be having quad packing of medium range SAMs that have both IR and electro optical seekers. I am sure that UVLS on the type 055s would have enough capacity to spare for this.

Any thoughts on this?
 

gelgoog

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China is one of the world leaders in AESA radar and they have basically cloned the S-400 missile system by this point. Chinese ships would have better defensive capabilities against such weapons than US ships. That's what I don't get. Why is it the US always assume the other side won't strike back? Eventually they will suffer from this aggressive posture.
 
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