00X/004 future nuclear CATOBAR carrier thread

[by78]

It is possible but not everything aligns with that. There is evidence in the photo it’s meant to be connected together and might have in that photo that could be the bow/stern and when you compare it to the USS enterprise, that section looks almost identical and it’s also we know Dalian shipyard is for mostly naval projects

No, the Dalian shipyard builds by far more civilian vessels than military ones.

 

[PLAwatcher12]

No, the Dalian shipyard builds by far more civilian vessels than military ones.

That would be my bad but it’s still know for naval projects. But I would like to say to again that everything in the ship being built points towards a naval ship not what you said as a large floating nuclear power plant with desalination on board, if you could explain what makes you think it is that it would be helpful

 

[by78]

given the fact it looks module what naval ships are and you might be able to see the bow/stern and when compare to the USS enterprise it looks almost identical pointing to something similar to that, not an large floating nuclear power plant with a desalination plant onboard it. If you can point to evidence in the build that leans your towards that idea, it will be helpful

I don't see how these modules look like they're military in nature. Hydrodynamics dictates hull shape near and under the waterline, and very large displacement ocean going ships share similar shapes in that regard irrespective of their intended use. The fact that earlier we saw two large modules with tall side walls surrounding nothing but empty space in the middle should count against this being an aircraft carrier. In all my years of observing U.S. and Chinese carrier construction, I don't recall ever seeing such tall U-shaped vertical sections. Carriers are usually built by stacking together much smaller and far more densely packed modules.

 

[PLAwatcher12]

I don't see how these modules look like they're military in nature. Hydrodynamics dictates hull shape near and under the waterline, and very large displacement ocean going ships share similar shapes in that regard irrespective of their intended use. The fact that earlier we saw two large modules with tall side walls surrounding empty space should count against this being an aircraft carrier. In all my years of observing U.S. and Chinese carrier construction, I don't recall ever seeing such tall U-shaped vertical sections. Carriers are usually built by stacking together much smaller and far more densely packed modules.

While that is true, it’s not exactly true there is empty spaces on carriers and diffent ones have different designs and carriers can have U shaped sections, so while yes it might not be a carrier nothing yet points towards it being a large floating nuclear power plant, you can see here it looks in this section the design really similar to the USS enterprise. We can’t rule out a carrier yet just because you saw U shaped vertical sections or two large tall modules with side walls surrounding an empty space. Carrier designs are different for every country so the design not looking the same to you as the type 003 or US carriers isn’t enough to rule it out.

 

[by78]

While that is true, it’s not exactly true there is empty spaces on carriers and diffent ones have different designs and carriers can have U shaped sections, so while yes it might not be a carrier nothing yet points towards it being a large floating nuclear power plant, you can see here it looks in this section the design really similar to the USS enterprise. We can’t rule out a carrier yet just because you saw U shaped vertical sections or two large tall modules with side walls surrounding an empty space. Carrier designs are different for every country so the design not looking the same to you as the type 003 or US carriers isn’t enough to rule it out.

Yes, the two sections do look similar, but the difference is that on the U.S. carrier, the side walls were added later as separate modules, with the space in the middle having already been occupied by extensively built structures. This is not the case with the ship in Dalian.

 

[sheogorath]

No way a floating power plant can be THAT large, it is pure nonsense. If you have most space for reactor that will be larger than land power stations.

Floating power plants are big. They might not be long, but they are certainly wide

 

[PLAwatcher12]

Yes, the two sections do look similar, but the difference is that on the U.S. carrier, the side walls were added later as separate modules, with the space in the middle having already been occupied by extensively built structures. This is not the case with the ship in Dalian.

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This isn’t proof it’s not a carrier, as this is only a snapshot we can’t tell why their doing this and every country builds carriers definitely there isn’t only way correct way to build one and we know any type 004 won’t be built the same way as others. Just because this section might be built different doesn’t mean it’s not for a carrier, as like we both agree they both look almost identical just with some changes. My point is we can’t rule out a carrier because some stuff doesn’t match what other carriers do when they will always have differences between them in how and the reason their built.

 

[valysre]

This isn’t proof it’s not a carrier

It's not proof it is a carrier, either, which I think is the whole point of this discussion. Right now, it's a large ship that's being built slowly, any circumstantial evidence that it is a carrier notwithstanding.

 

[by78]

This isn’t proof it’s not a carrier, as this is only a snapshot we can’t tell why their doing this and every country builds carriers definitely there isn’t only way correct way to build one and we know any type 004 won’t be built the same way as others. Just because this section might be built different doesn’t mean it’s not for a carrier, as like we both agree they both look almost identical just with some changes. My point is we can’t rule out a carrier because some stuff doesn’t match what other carriers do when they will always have differences between them in how and the reason their built.

There is a ship being built in that dry dock. If you insist on claiming that it is an aircraft carrier, then the burden of proof is on you. Your wish that it is a carrier is itself not a proof.

 

[valysre]

You can twist my logic all you want but it doesn’t make it true and I always said I think it’s a carrier, and all I said was I never said it isa carrier. Thinking it’s a carrier and saying it is, are much different

I think anyone who ever took rhetoric classes could tell that you were insinuating that it was a carrier, and all your comments so far have only reinforced this.

But, we can all happily agree that it could be a carrier, but that as of now the strongest designation that the ship may be given is "big ship being built slowly," and this will probably be the strongest designation we can give for quite some time.