The War in the Ukraine

tankphobia

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Nothing new here, soldiers and their families were purchasing non-standard weapons and equipment for their own use during WWII and even the Vietnam War.
For gun sights and attachments I understand, but something as basic as a bullet proof plates? Surely Russia can make do with steel.
 

pevade

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No need for missiles at the speeds current drones are flying at (and would probably be uneconomical). No need for expensive sensors or computing power either.

Just a small calibre machine gun and a sight camera is enough. I wonder who will be the first drone "ace".
At this point, why not just put a sword or some kind of disposable tip to attack enemy drones, no need for machine guns and shit. Just fucking ram them lol. Though it would need some complicated edge AI software to do the attack via onboard drone computer rather than by a drone operator due to the high speeds involved.
 

BlackWindMnt

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EU boss says more than 100,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been sacrificed for EU so far. Quite a high number considering Ukraine's ever falling demographics due to low birth rate, high emigration rate, high death rate, especially in a pandemic.

I think she misspoke and meant Ukrainian soldiers and not officers right?
If she means officers is there a certain ratio one can use to calculate/approximate total casualties?
 

gelgoog

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Russians can make steel plates just fine but apparently only 3 countries has the technology to independently make UHMWPE plates from start to finish and they are US, Netherlands and China. In fact it wasn't that long ago that a Taiwanese MIC company got caught importing UHMWPE fiber from China to make their own plates.
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Maybe that's why Russians were at first complaining about inferior Chinese plates - because they're not used to the lightness of UHMWPE compared to ceramic or steel.
Russia has its own UHMWPE armor with domestic fiber but it is not in mass production yet.
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ficker22

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For gun sights and attachments I understand, but something as basic as a bullet proof plates? Surely Russia can make do with steel.
Steel is much much more dense, every kilo a soldier carries around should have a reason, and as some posters said, they dont have the tech to produce plates from lightweight materials, while retaining ballistic protection.

You will feel the difference marching 30 km with 20 kg or with 15kg very fast.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered.

And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.

George Orwell, 1984
 

Abominable

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I think she misspoke and meant Ukrainian soldiers and not officers right?
If she means officers is there a certain ratio one can use to calculate/approximate total casualties?
I think its a language/translation issue. It would be weird to only be talking about officer deaths.

100,000 dead Ukrainians , including injured it is around 400,000 total casualties. Military age males are the primary resource of any country, they are responsible for lions share economic activity. Even if the war ended now Ukraine will need hundreds of thousands of guest workers for their economy to remain economically competitive.

Assuming Russia keeps this up for a few years Ukraine will cease to exist one way or the other.
 
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