Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

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FriedButter

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Edit: I can’t find the right reply for the tweet lol. Seems like I quoted the wrong one.

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The ministry released a list of areas in which there will no longer be communication between Chinese and American officials. It includes working meetings between defense departments, maritime security consultation, cooperation on illegal migration, judicial assistance, transnational crime, drug control, and climate change. A planned phone call between senior military commanders of the two nations has also been canceled, the statement said.

Seems like the tweet forgot to include climate change.
 

ougoah

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call me a distracted pla observer but I had not realised the plaaf still routinely uses su-30s, at least not in the numbers seen yesterday and probably today as well

Using the Russian platforms in inventory because it gives away less intel for signals snooping and observations on movements and tactics.

Hence why we saw the Su-35s be sent out days ago.

Russian platforms make up a much smaller proportion of inventory and give less away in terms of what electronic signatures and tactics are used by the mainstay and frontline platforms (not Russian).
 

Sardaukar20

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Two can play the salami-slicing game. The DPP salami-slicing towards Taiwanese independence. The PLA salami-slicing towards the Taiwanese mainland.

Now the PLA has crossed the median line. If the DPP salami slices some more. The PLA will eventually reach the coast of Taiwan mainland. See who loses their nerves 1st. The PLA will challenge the Taiwanese to shoot first. If they do, then they can blame the DPP for triggering AR.

If the West protests. Then China can say: "Hey we wanted peaceful reunification all along. But those DPP terrorists started shooting 1st. So we just had to shoot back and get rid of them from office".
 

9dashline

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Edit: I can’t find the right reply for the tweet lol. Seems like I quoted the wrong one.

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Seems like the tweet forgot to include climate change.
China not coorperating on climate change is a big one.

As it stands, US is trying to leverage Jevon's paradox to get China to self harm by lowering China's EROEI whilsts directly benefitting America to allow US to climb ahead... its like when Trump wanted China to cap its nuke count while the US itself got out of the treaty etc....

US is China's #1 existential threat, until that threat has been resolved, China can ill afford to think of the climate
 

zbb

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There is current no value in taking Kinmen or any of the outlying islands close to China.
There is no diplomatic, military or strategic value, and certainly no PR or propaganda value.

The people on those outlying islands will either be indifferent to or even support being taken by China. The rest of the people on Taiwan will use it as a way of galvanizing themselves against China even further.
It will also enable the government on Taiwan to more easily "give up" their claim on those islands and thus in turn reinforce their political position of being "Taiwan" rather than the "Republic of China".
Kinmen and other outlying islands may have little strategic or economic value but they are great starting points for potential PRC salami slicing.

PRC can first start with overflights of some of the smaller ROC controlled islands near the mainland, which has already been done in the recent flare up. Once that become a regular and accepted practice, PRC can start with overflights of the bigger Kinmen and Matsu islands. After that also become regular and accepted practice, we move on to overflights of Penghu, followed by islands just off the coast of Taiwan like Little Liuqiu, Green island, etc. Similar salami slicing can also be performed with PRC ships entering territorial waters of these islands, followed by boarding and inspection of ships under the guise of law enforcement.

Each incremental step in this salami slicing can also be timed as responses to provocative moves by Taiwan independence forces, such as visits by foreign politicians or officials, attempts to join international bodies, etc., to further reduce the likelihood of international criticism and sanctions.

If anything I would say that taking those outlying islands is an actively bad idea from China's pov, and that actually keeping them in play as under the control of the govt on Taiwan is more useful for China.
Yes, I agree there is no point in taking and occupying these islands. Keeping them under ROC control is far more useful from diplomatic and psychological perspective as they can be used to demonstrate PRC sovereignty over territories controlled by the ROC and make the Taiwanese psychologically accept the total dominance of the PLA.
 

FriedButter

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Two can play the salami-slicing game. The DPP salami-slicing towards Taiwanese independence. The PLA salami-slicing towards the Taiwanese mainland.

Now the PLA has crossed the median line. If the DPP salami slices some more. The PLA will eventually reach the coast of Taiwan mainland. See who loses their nerves 1st. The PLA will challenge the Taiwanese to shoot first. If they do, then they can blame the DPP for triggering AR.

If the West protests. Then China can say: "Hey we wanted peaceful reunification all along. But those DPP terrorists started shooting 1st. So we just had to shoot back and get rid of them from office".

If the UK visits in December then it gives them a chance to do another exercise and potentially further moves. Another soft blockade would be annoying for companies during the holiday season.
 

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Chinese military forces Pelosi’s plane to make detour, PLA general says
Beijing’s tracking and surveillance push US House speaker to head east of the Philippines on the way to Taiwan, according to Major General Meng Xiangqing
Meng says the PLA’s announcement of drills off the coast of the island caused the USS Ronald Reagan carrier strike group to back away

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China ‘convinced it needs to hit US with Pearl Harbor-style surprise attack’ to win war over Taiwan, expert warns
 

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Two can play the salami-slicing game. The DPP salami-slicing towards Taiwanese independence. The PLA salami-slicing towards the Taiwanese mainland.

Now the PLA has crossed the median line. If the DPP salami slices some more. The PLA will eventually reach the coast of Taiwan mainland. See who loses their nerves 1st. The PLA will challenge the Taiwanese to shoot first. If they do, then they can blame the DPP for triggering AR.

If the West protests. Then China can say: "Hey we wanted peaceful reunification all along. But those DPP terrorists started shooting 1st. So we just had to shoot back and get rid of them from office".
https://www.reddit.com/r/WhampoaMilitarySchool/comments/wfi8tk Looks like Taiwanese independence is an IJA operation in disguese lol.
 
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