Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

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supersnoop

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A very plausible scenario. Pelosi's plane enters internationally recognised Chinese airspace, refuses to follow orders and is shot down.

Once the plane has been shot down China can always do nothing else militarily and pursue America legally for an illegal intrusion of their borders. Given Pelosi's actions would violate American law (Taiwan Relations Act, Logan Act) not to mention international law, we could see America getting Russia style treatment internationally.

If he isn't able to escalate into a full scale war and is forced too back down, it would be an embarrassment for Biden and would likely lead to an impeachment.

I don’t think the law is America’s concern. However, I can see Republicans choosing to take advantage of the situation rather than fight.

Trump will sent out a “Troot” (is that what they are called? Truth + Toot?) like “Ding Dong the witch is dead, Dems can’t defend themselves, don’t count on them to stand up to China!!”
 

getready

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I argue for this too. China doesn't declare war on countries that recognize Taiwan. It just suspends relations. The problem here is the Taiwanese government. They keep pushing boundaries. Of course posturing against the USA is needed since it is the enabler but the problem is Taiwan itself.
I say both are equally culpable. Takes two hands to clap. If the US doesn't give them backing, no matter how much Tsai regime try to play dirty hands, they can't do sh*t short of declaring independence and thus destroying themselves.

I even venture to say, Taiwan problem in essence, is a China vs US issue. If US can be eliminated in the equation then Taiwan prolblem is far less problematic. Even solvable imminently.
 

9dashline

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A WZ-8 flyover, huh? That's pretty funny. And what's a "median line"? Never heard of it, sounds like a completely fabricated concept to me.

No, how about a flyover over Taipei - including where Pelosi's speaking - by armed (possibly nuclear-armed) H-6 bombers. Or how about detonating a nuclear weapon in the waters near Taiwan. That sounds both sufficiently theatrical and an eminently reasonable response to this provocation.
Thats gonna create quite the Tidalwave...

Another way is to denotate an EMP over Taipei... take out the grid then cut the undersea submarine cables etc totally blind them... and sever comms from rest of the world.... Use the DF-26s to strike TSMC and all the major runways/airports (easy static immobile targets out in the open)...
 

zgx09t

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Alright, you guys, you've won me over! I'm hyped!

In the next three days Nancy Pelosi dies. If she doesn't die, it doesn't count. If she's not dead, it doesn't count.

LET'S GO!!

Easy there mister, control your enthusiasm.
She is only hoping for a tender loving fingerbang, with a smattering of 4 fingers method in between.
She must whistle the Internationale entire time though, without stops or breaking off, then no fingers.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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Thats gonna create quite the Tidalwave...
You know, speaking of tidalwaves - if we could recruit him to the cause, he could use his alts to spam Taiwan's networks. He'd DDoS Taiwan's entire electronic infrastructure. The guy's a one-man super botnet.
Another way is to denotate an EMP over Taipei... take out the grid then cut the undersea submarine cables etc totally blind them... and sever comms from rest of the world.... Use the DF-26s to strike TSMC and all the major runways/airports (easy static immobile targets out in the open)...
Nah, the point isn't to cause any damage. It's to do something suitably theatrical that both lets Pelosi leave alive and lets the air out of her balloon. The nuclear explosion would get 24/7 news coverage and nobody will remember that Pelosi was ever there.
 

Abominable

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China is a signatory of the CTBT so a nuclear test would be breaking international law. Testing a nuclear device in international waters at short notice could also lead to human casualties, not to mention the massive international outrage.

China's goal needs to be to use this crisis to increase political instablity in American domestic politics. Trump has already had a field day with Biden's mismanagement of the Ukraine, Afghanistan and the economy. Getting Biden to do the "wrong" thing on Taiwan will be good (including Pelosi cancelling her trip).

The best outcome would be to come to some agreement with Taiwanese authorities to rescind the invitation, bypassing America and undermining their whole narrative. There is the option of heavy economic and political pressure, maybe throw them a carrot or two if they agree. Perhaps some of the tariffs on products from Taiwan.

I don’t think the law is America’s concern. However, I can see Republicans choosing to take advantage of the situation rather than fight.

Trump will sent out a “Troot” (is that what they are called? Truth + Toot?) like “Ding Dong the witch is dead, Dems can’t defend themselves, don’t count on them to stand up to China!!”
Americans do claim to follow international law when it suits them. The first thing the US will do will be to go to the UNSC to complain. Agree to international arbitration to see who was responsible - it'll be interesting to see America explain why China was in the wrong to shoot down a plane which entered what America and the UN acknowledge as Chinese territory that didn't follow commands to land when intercepted.
 

Will76

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If China started anything militarily it would be one of the best times to do so. With Europe severely weakened with inflation and gas prices, US consumers hurt and population polarized, Heavy economic dependence on China, Russia's war. And other regional powers relatively weak (India,South korea etc). It won't be the same 10 years from now.
 
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zgx09t

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Personally speaking, this Pelosi hag is just a politician flea of a sort who wouldn't put her neck out to some vague notion of her personal ideals to the point of her earthly demise. She is by nature a political weasel, used to clapping her hands and pounding the gavel, and wheeling and dealing and insider trading are her forte. All in all, she wouldn't go to Taiwan, given what she is truly, and what's at stake for her life. Easy choice for her, just give her an off ramp and off she goes, smiling and clapping, an armada in tow is just for jiggles. Give her several body lenght mirrors and she'd be happy.
 
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