Israeli tech is definitely worthwhile on paper, especially considering its techs relating to US ones. Indian strategy on looking towards Israel is definitely reasonable and rational. However, also because of Israeli tech's close relations with the US ones, it makes me wonder if the US has backdoors in some of the Israeli sold techs.
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I don't think so. Well, this is certainly gossip territory but US has repeatedly raised these issues with Israel but if anything, it'd be a slap on the wrist for them.
Most recently, this news :
I don't think we need to discuss the nature of US/Israel relationship. I don't think it's relevant to this thread. But Israel isn't alone in leaking or pilfering tech. Also, the unique security conditions of Israel forces it to sink considerable capital and Human resource into Defence manufacturing ( often built with US companies) and they have built up a good revenue stream with the sale of these technology.
China's relationship with Israel is not similar to India's of today. China is focused more on civilian technology development (semiconductors, automotive, electronics etc). Increasing US scrutiny on defence technology flow has shifted the nature of cooperation but not stymied the flow.
Ha, interesting news. Indeed peculiar.
Picking this up again, I have posted what i read in other places.
I don't know how Safran will manage to "insert" M88 core into Kaveri (2). Again, this might be just JaiHind reporting. I don't think its possible/ feasible. What they might be suggesting here would be to offer the Manufacturing technology behind the M88 Hot section Turbines for Kaveri core or a license to use the 'process'.
So the (3) third part, if at all it's distinct from the first two, would mean that the Billions French apparently asked India was for transferring the manufacturing Know How to India with increased rights and limited conditions.
Anyway, the most interesting part to be seen isn't all the above but whether India will drop the Kaveri project altogether. To persevere is something Chinese ( circumstances are such that) but India, in present geopolitical climate, wouldn't find it hard to get engine know how if it pleases the right countries enough.
Unless, India tries to do a le Arjun Tank or Tejas here, which would be something else.
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If it doesn't fit, you must acquit.
Much earlier ones:
Against HGVs:
Programs from 1950s way before India even thought about such things:
Now where is india's supposed BMD ABM?
All these dump posts do is bombard threads with India is also very strong please please believe that India is strong and supa dupa.
None of those posts are relevant. Every single one is unimpressive for even 20th century standards. Let's take a look carefully at each one.
Helicopters purchased from others well who doesn't have those. Dhruv is quite possibly the absolute worst helicopter to have been made by man. It is the most accident prone, the lowest in service, the only one to have been returned and refunded.
Yuan Wang 1 that entered service in 1977 and retired in 2010.
China is up to Yuan Wang 21 and 22. India is roughly 40 years behind. Still India has no deep space network of its own and goes begging to other powers to borrow their expertise and deep space networks for space missions that require them.
Big woop these dump posts of India supa dupa and still at least 40 years behind even China. India's radars are made up of foreign AESA modules and technology. The vast majority of India's radar units are actually REBRANDED Israeli ones. 1:1 the same in some cases and often even made in Israel instead of India with license production. Has India exported a single radar unit or air defence system? Nope. China has been selling them since the 1990s and won competitions against Russian and American systems.
Let's see India build something similar to Type 346, not even 346A or 346B.
Or see India build a ship of this class to fit electronics and radar equipment that even starts to approach China's 1990s level.
Haldilal I appreciate respectable responses but please don't pretend India is even close to 20 years behind China in these fields. It's not even got a real electronics or radar industry or a shipbuilding industry that is 10% of China's. India accounts for barely single digit global ship building and China is the ship builder of the world alongside South Korea.
Stop dumping post after post of what India has. If you did that, even filling posts with Israeli purchased stuff, it would be over in a few pages. If we did that with Chinese equipment, it would take dozens of pages.
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At sea launches like that Indian dhanush is such a pointless thing. One missile on a boat? Post when India has the ability to launch IRBM or ICBM ranged missiles from submarines in numbers. Ask why no major military country does an Indian dhanush. For space launch at sea it would be something like this.
Real payloads for real missions and real progress. Not India's "Look at me! I launched 100+ "micro satellites" aka plastic calculator sized objects that do absolutely nothing at all" vs everyone else's micro satellites that are part of projects with function. India launched plastic bricks into orbit and called it microsatellites but China's are part of space missions and each one perform actual tasks.
As for military payloads, no major military country requires an entire ship to launch one single short ranged ballistic missile. That is pathetically bad and a poor use of limited resources. India has how many ships that launch prithvi? Fewer than China has Type 094 and each Type 094 can launch 12 JL-2 which are five times longer in range than Prithvi. This is already a second rate thing for China with Type 094B and JL-3 or Type 096 and various long ranged surface to surface.
What Dhanush system is is basically a frigate sized ship with a V-2 on the back. To show that off... unbelievable.
These are pretty rubbish missiles for 21st century standards.
India has yet to develop a single ICBM. China managed to do that in the 1970s and on their third generation of long ranged ICBM and SLBM now with MaRV being much more mature, MIRV being a common thing for a while now, and HGVs.
The gap between India and Chinese radars and missiles is like the gap between Tejas and J-20. Decades and hundreds of industries and mastery of fields that India has not even begun establishing let alone actually working within.