Ladakh Flash Point

[ZeEa5KPul]

I must say that I'm surprised by the discipline of the Indian media to not show any of these images or even mention them. Shows just how "free" the media is in a "democracy", amirite?

If only the Indian "army" had anything like that discipline, things might have gone differently for them.

 

[siegecrossbow]

I must say that I'm surprised by the discipline of the Indian media to not show any of these images or even mention them. Shows just how "free" the media is in a "democracy", amirite?

If only the Indian "army" had anything like that discipline, things might have gone differently for them.

The latest photos have become the "pictures that must not be named" for the Indians, sort of like a multimedia Lord Voldermort.

 

[longmarch]

Why does India keep pumping fake news, what do they really get out of it? Is it just to make themselves feel good?
I've said before and I say it again: those who think releasing these photos earlier would result in escalation seriously underestimated India's ability to control mass media. Those who think India dared to escalate after humiliation overestimated their fighting spirit. Withholding these photos would not grant China any deterrence, only invites more agressive behavior from the other side. What happened after Galwan clash have made it crystal clear.

 

[10thman]

Why does India keep pumping fake news, what do they really get out of it? Is it just to make themselves feel good?
I've said before and I say it again: those who think releasing these photos earlier would result in escalation seriously underestimated India's ability to control mass media. Those who think India dared to escalate after humiliation overestimated their fighting spirit. Withholding these photos would not grant China any deterrence, only invites more agressive behavior from the other side. What happened after Galwan clash have made it crystal clear.

One reason could be advertising revenue (or money)?

 

[twineedle]

Funny how some members here think India controls its media, when there are multiple biased outlets like the Hindu, National Herald, and the Wire which regualarly criticize the government and go against the government narrative.

 

[Temstar]

Can we expect more leaks in future? Including videos.

Sure, just want till next time when Indian media start to stir up fake news.

Going by this pattern, we should see some photos from Tawang by oh, say, this time next year.

 

[ougoah]

Funny how some members here think India controls its media, when there are multiple biased outlets like the Hindu, National Herald, and the Wire which regualarly criticize the government and go against the government narrative.

Indian media is currently in blackout control and censorship by government of India. Not a single major outlet mentioned this and they backpeddled the fake narrative Indians spun last week about thwarting PLA and detaining PLA. Immediate backpeddling by Indian government and Indian media censorship. No mention of these things at all.

Fact: Indian media under gov and Indian military influence was directed to talk about "detaining PLA" in September. Then two days ago started saying no this isn't true we lied sorry. "India did not detain any PLA" - literally what Indian gov said in last few days. As for "free" media? Then how did they find out about "detaining PLA" of course Indian gov and military told Indian media to write that and provided the fake details (which they themselves later retracted!). Furthermore if so free, why not a single mention of new super inflammatory photos that prove Modi lied and Indian military and gov covered up MASSIVE Indian losses and captives. India mentioned 50 IA captured but the reality was over 100 like China's PLA leaked to Chinese netizens. 10 officer held for longer than the rest and the rest returned the next day and following days because there were so many and treated their bloody wounds even though the Indians killed 3 PLA in cold blood when they were outnumbering PLA and started the fight. Not to mention beating up a lone PLA comms officer before that so yeah Indians keep throwing first punches.

As for buffers. Well they are what China's trying to achieve not India. If buffer gets established, India "gains" 0% of legacy dispute AND will have no more right to even patrol the 20%. China secures 80% of legacy dispute. If there is a total buffer of the 20%, both sides cannot meet and escalate so this dispute at the Ladakh side would not become an issue with fighting or needing to send troops out with banners to confront the patrolling groups.

 

[twineedle]

Indian media is currently in blackout control and censorship by government of India. Not a single major outlet mentioned this and they backpeddled the fake narrative Indians spun last week about thwarting PLA and detaining PLA. Immediate backpeddling by Indian government and Indian media censorship. No mention of these things at all.

Fact: Indian media under gov and Indian military influence was directed to talk about "detaining PLA" in September. Then two days ago started saying no this isn't true we lied sorry. "India did not detain any PLA" - literally what Indian gov said in last few days. As for "free" media? Then how did they find out about "detaining PLA" of course Indian gov and military told Indian media to write that and provided the fake details (which they themselves later retracted!). Furthermore if so free, why not a single mention of new super inflammatory photos that prove Modi lied and Indian military and gov covered up MASSIVE Indian losses and captives. India mentioned 50 IA captured but the reality was over 100 like China's PLA leaked to Chinese netizens. 10 officer held for longer than the rest and the rest returned the next day and following days because there were so many and treated their bloody wounds even though the Indians killed 3 PLA in cold blood when they were outnumbering PLA and started the fight. Not to mention beating up a lone PLA comms officer before that so yeah Indians keep throwing first punches.

As for buffers. Well they are what China's trying to achieve not India. If buffer gets established, India "gains" 0% of legacy dispute AND will have no more right to even patrol the 20%. China secures 80% of legacy dispute. If there is a total buffer of the 20%, both sides cannot meet and escalate so this dispute at the Ladakh side would not become an issue with fighting or needing to send troops out with banners to confront the patrolling groups.

Then why are analysts like Sawhney, Shukla, Panag, etc. not censored? And why are media outlets like the Hindu allowed to provide coverage on the current standoff that makes it easy for the opposition to criticize the government?

 

[ougoah]

Then why are analysts like Sawhney, Shukla, Panag, etc. not censored? And why are media outlets like the Hindu allowed to provide coverage on the current standoff that makes it easy for the opposition to criticize the government?

I'm talking of media outlets not individuals. Those individuals you mentioned hardly have any Indian following in comparison and do not reach out to many and actively doxxed by Jai Hinds. Shukla is very pro India and India stronk but ocassionaly talks about things that don't reflect well o nthe governemtn. Show me which Indian media publish a single of the new photos?

They don't because it doesn't suit GOI's narratives they built up for a year. It also doesn't suit Hindutva agenda and narratives.

Anyway do you not agree that Jai Hinds are pathetic for showing bollywood movie pictures as evidence? So many doing that online. Getting humiliated. Pretending bollywood scenes are real life.

 

[siegecrossbow]

I'm talking of media outlets not individuals. Show me which Indian media publish a single of the new photos?

They don't because it doesn't suit GOI's narratives they built up for a year. It also doesn't suit Hindutva agenda and narratives.

This is very odd considering that even their own media owned up to the fact that at least ten Indian soldiers were captured last year. I guess the photo revealed that it was only the tip of the iceburg.

It does answer the question of why China released most of the captives almost immediately though. There is no way that Chinese logistics could support this many prisoners.