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AssassinsMace

AssassinsMace

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DarkStar said:
China, as a country, people and civilisation has often been put forth as a foil and projection for the insecurities and failures of the white man.

This is really why white nationalist 'whole of civilisation war' types want a war with China, because it gives their own lives meaning, especially if they're the white christian evangelical type; without China as an enemy, they'd have to forge their own path in life and to some people, there's nothing more frightening than a life without purpose.
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Well it's like all the Republican state governors experiencing higher rates of COVID-19 are blaming immigrants for bringing it in to their states and not their refusal to take COVID-19 seriously.
 
DarkStar

DarkStar

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AssassinsMace said:
Well it's like all the Republican state governors experiencing higher rates of COVID-19 are blaming immigrants for bringing it in to their states and not their refusal to take COVID-19 seriously.
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The very same doublethink that believes COVID isn't real and yet the Chinese created it as a bioweapon, that China has concentration camps full of uighurs and yet blinken wants China to take in more muslims afghans...

I must say, for a state that claims to champion free thought, there's very little thinking going on amongst the people there.
 
plawolf

plawolf

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sinophilia said:
You don't have to pity them, but many of them were clearly pre-teens, and plenty of children and women (contrary to American propaganda which says they are mostly young bad people, which is also your opinion hilariously enough). It is your choice the kind of morals you have, but you are displaying the exact same kind of hatred of these poor clueless brown people that Americans are.
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What kind of silly strawman nonsense is this? You need to cry crocodile tears and virtue signal or you have no morals and hate the ‘poor innocents’? :rolleyes:

I have said from the very start that I am entirely indifferent to their plight. I would have more sympathy towards them if they were truly deserving of my pity. But at least I am internally consistent in having zero time for traitors and collaborators no matter their nationality or ethnicity be they Afghan, Chinese or British.

sinophilia said:
Americans are openly saying leave them behind, bring the dogs first, they might be terrorists, etc. Why embolden the Americans by supporting these viewpoints by implying these guys are traitors anyway so who cares what happens to them?

This is indirectly supporting America instead of calling them out for what they are: sociopaths who just left behind poor innocent folk who unwittingly helped them for some spare cash.

Every time you say, 'yea those Afghans were traitors and deserve death' you take the spotlight away from America and their savagery and cruelty, because it then looks justified the way they treated these desperate refugees.
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If anyone here is blinded by hatred, it would seem to be you towards the Americans. To suggest expressing indifference to the plight of traitors and collaborators is to somehow excuse the behaviour of the Americans in leaving them to their fate is jai hind level obsessive nonsense.

The difference between my indifference and America’s indifference to these people’s fates is that none of them worked for me, so I owe them precisely nothing, unlike the Americans to whom they sold their souls already.

sinophilia said:
I would also say, no you have no idea the exact demographics of the people at the airport so please stop pretending like you do. For all you know most of the true traitors have already left with the Americans - don't forget thousands had already left before the Taliban took over - and most of these guys at the airport were there to mess around or look for a free ride to a rich country.
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Yeah sure, people there to mess around for lolz would cling onto airframes and risk getting crushed by landing gears, because lolz!

And more Jai Hind level silly nonsense trying to suggest people need to have unattainable levels of irrelevant knowledge in order to express an opinion.

I don’t need to know the personal backstory of every single person at the airport to know a good number, if not overwhelming majority, are there because they went above and beyond for the Americans and got discarded without a thought like a used condom.
 
LawLeadsToPeace

LawLeadsToPeace

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Agnus said:
Honestly, I don't think it is a bad thing if it is done properly. It can be used to deal with the aging population and some PR points. Given, China's massive population, they will be sinicized in a few generations.
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Sinicization isnt that simple. The assumption that sinicization is manageable is as (no offense) dumb as Americans thinking that everyone will abandon their connections to their ethnic homeland and pledge allegiance to America only. Spoiler alert: they don't. The Irish, pre WW1 Germans (during ww1, they changed their names and cultural practices to avoid getting beaten, killed or arrested, so technically cultural genocide happened to them), Chinese, Mexicans, Indians, and basically every immigrant group here in the US support policies that would benefit their own ethnic homeland. As of now, most of these groups' ethnic homelands are on the US's side, so from the surface they are Americanized. But later on, when those homelands start to side with China and the US tries to cripple them, those lines will become cracks and eventually gaps.

Throughout Chinese history, external ethnic groups start to get sinicized when their elites accepted Chinese culture and philosophy and/or basically have their homelands (unless they were nomadic) integrated into China. Even then, they arent fully sinicized (ex: Xinjiang unrests). For Tibetans, they are less sinicized than even Uyghurs since they were conquered. Yes, the US played a huge role in instigating those unrests, but a fire cannot start without a source. It cost China a lot of resources, blood, and time to stabilize those regions. Immigrants and refugees are basically impossible to sinicize thanks to, ironically, modern transportation and communication and purpose. People immigrate or run to other countries mostly for survival, not because they worship you. For example, those Western expats ran to China because they have no economic opportunities in their home countries. Thats why when the Europeans tried to do their Westernization process upon refugees, they mostly failed. In short, I sympathize those refugees, but I would not accept and try to sinicize them. Instead, helping their countries build up their homeland's infrastructure, economy, and security is the best way to go. That not only gives you PR points, but also a future ally and trading partner in the future.
 
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