Ladakh Flash Point

[lgnxz]

Because it's such a minor detail. It works against you.

How is it working against me when I manage to show that he's lying lol? He claims that *the video* exists, and if you want to argue that the actual things really does happen, it still doesn't really excuse you from claiming that it's captured on video, by the chinese side, nor it's a form of proof simply by stating that the probability of such things happened exists.

Have your fun but you do your position a great disservice by acting just like a mindless Jai Hind.

Yeah I know, expecting indians to back up their claim is a pretty tall asking. Silly me, expecting this indian to behave any better than the rest..

Once the video is produced are you not embarrassed saying it didn't/doesn't exist?

Is this the mindset that you used whenever a BS claim made by the indian, a nervous thought in the back of your head that there's a possibility, not big, actually pretty slim given their typical ridiculous claims contrary to chronological reality, doubting yourself and scared of feeling embarrassed?? How pathetic in my opinion, unlike twineedle and I assume you as well since you brought this up, I don't need to feel embarrassed for literally asking for evidences to back up someone's claim. It should be a standard behavior in a discussion, and if I'm proven wrong, it's also should be a standard to well just admit it gracefully instead of playing hide-and-seek in the forum

Get your main point stated, then argue tiny details if you so wish or if it is important.

You clearly don't understand the history that I had with on this particular topic and with this particular indian on this thread. I've shown multiple times evidences, videos, detailing the chronological order leading up to the clash in june, disproving his lies multiple times.

This was months ago ofc, and get this, *everytime* I call him out on this particular topic, he always just disappeared. Poof, gone without a word on my posts. And when I thought the discussion is over, months later here we go again once the cooling period is over, the same indian, repeating the same talking points that has been debunked months ago yet ignored by them. It's like a silly timeloop.

The fight happened because an Indian group attacked a Chinese position. You can't stand it if a Chinese position is attacked? You can't tolerate the fact that a Chinese tent was attacked?

When did I mention that I disagree with this? They do attack our position, are those tents that they put not a form of aggression?

Here's a simple logical thought held by indian on this particular incident

China built tents -> india protests -> clash happened to remove the supposed chinese tents -> shows satellite image of the said chinese tent removed after clash -> mission success for india in halting chinese intrusion

Now here's the correct one, proven beyond reasonable doubt with the videos that I've posted for months already

India brought tractor, building bridges to cross the river, built tents, intruding into our position -> china protested -> the famous clash happened -> the satellite photo that the indian themselves shown that the indian tents (believed to be chinese before the video is posted, another proof of weakness of arguing by satellite photo) are now removed.

You can't see the stark difference between the two? Yep, only trivial stuff right? Clearly makes no difference in the discussion whether the same tents that are shown in the satellite and videos to be removed after the clash is owned by chinese or indian

 

[lgnxz]

Attacking everything the other says regardless of what the content is or how trivial a particular detail is.

Ah yes the high quality content and evidences that indians have brought so far: blurry satellite images and fudgy invisible lines on the map. The same level of evidences that proofs china has committed genocide in xinjiang and tibet, guys! Oh and don't forget the next big thing that they brought up to the table; the words of indian generals. I mean really, who could be more honest and reliable than them in stating facts? Indian media maybe came in a close second behind them as the most trusted source of news. Really some hard stuff man, totally worth to listen to..

 

[Xizor]

Ah yes the high quality content and evidences that indians have brought so far: blurry satellite images and fudgy invisible lines on the map. The same level of evidences that proofs china has committed genocide in xinjiang and tibet, guys! Oh and don't forget the next big thing that they brought up to the table; the words of indian generals. I mean really, who could be more honest and reliable than them in stating facts? Indian media maybe came in a close second behind them as the most trusted source of news. Really some hard stuff man, totally worth to listen to..

Yes. Despite their insistence on Chinese wrongdoing, the fact that the Indian side has refused to divulge any media material is dodgy.

What's amusing is Indian jingoists ignoring these. There was a rumor (rose out of desperation and cope) that was spread by them last year that India was abiding by some secret agreements with China regarding withholding media materials on the clash. Sounds asinine but many Jai Hinds lapped it up.

 

[discspinner]

Yes. Despite their insistence on Chinese wrongdoing, the fact that the Indian side has refused to divulge any media material is dodgy.

What's amusing is Indian jingoists ignoring these. There was a rumor (rose out of desperation and cope) that was spread by them last year that India was abiding by some secret agreements with China regarding withholding media materials on the clash. Sounds asinine but many Jai Hinds lapped it up.

China has interrogation videos with captured commanders and essentially has Modi by the balls.

 

[ougoah]

China has interrogation videos with captured commanders and essentially has Modi by the balls.

The tea is better in China than it is in Pakistan. This is partly why Modi doesn't dare challenge China's narrative because China has all the evidence it needs to defend itself from allegations. They've immediately stopped with the "PLA beat us up with nail studded clubs" line or the "PLA attacked us!".

 

[JSL]

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5 Years Of Submarine Secrecy: India’s Unique Arihant Class Is Still In Hiding​

Even with Russia's help.

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Enter the Russians

The project was re-launched in 1985 under Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO) co-ordination with the codename Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV). With a retired vice admiral in charge, work on a prototype reactor began at the Kalpakkam nuclear power plant.

“But the project was still not getting anywhere,” says V. Koithara in the book Managing India’s Nuclear Forces. “India then sought and got much more substantial Russian help than had been envisaged earlier. The construction of the submarine’s hull began in 1998, and a basically Russian-designed 83 megawatt pressurised-water reactor was fitted in the hull nine years later.”



Ashok Parthasarthi, a former science and technology adviser to the late Prime Minister Indira Gandhi,

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the extent of Russian assistance: “India's first indigenous nuclear submarine, INS Arihant...would have just been impossible to realise without Russia’s massive all-round consultancy, technology transfer, technical services and training, technical 'know-how' and 'show-how,' design of the submarine as a whole, and above all numerous operational 'tips' based on 50 years of experience in designing, building and operating nuclear submarines.”

According to Bidwai, “Scores of Russian engineers were sent to India to aid the DAE and DRDO....It was the Russians who supplied the vital designs, precision equipment based on their VM-5 reactor, and the technology of miniaturising the reactor.”

And if there were any doubts about the extent of Russian involvement, they were cast away on July 26, 2009 when 143 Russian engineers, designers and consultants – all participants in the project – attended the boomer’s launch ceremony at Visakhapatnam on the east coast.




Yet the inferior indians still find a way to "laugh" at China's nuclear submarines.

 

[twineedle]

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[Xizor]

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5 Years Of Submarine Secrecy: India’s Unique Arihant Class Is Still In Hiding​

Even with Russia's help.

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Enter the Russians

The project was re-launched in 1985 under Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO) co-ordination with the codename Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV). With a retired vice admiral in charge, work on a prototype reactor began at the Kalpakkam nuclear power plant.

“But the project was still not getting anywhere,” says V. Koithara in the book Managing India’s Nuclear Forces. “India then sought and got much more substantial Russian help than had been envisaged earlier. The construction of the submarine’s hull began in 1998, and a basically Russian-designed 83 megawatt pressurised-water reactor was fitted in the hull nine years later.”



Ashok Parthasarthi, a former science and technology adviser to the late Prime Minister Indira Gandhi,

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the extent of Russian assistance: “India's first indigenous nuclear submarine, INS Arihant...would have just been impossible to realise without Russia’s massive all-round consultancy, technology transfer, technical services and training, technical 'know-how' and 'show-how,' design of the submarine as a whole, and above all numerous operational 'tips' based on 50 years of experience in designing, building and operating nuclear submarines.”

According to Bidwai, “Scores of Russian engineers were sent to India to aid the DAE and DRDO....It was the Russians who supplied the vital designs, precision equipment based on their VM-5 reactor, and the technology of miniaturising the reactor.”

And if there were any doubts about the extent of Russian involvement, they were cast away on July 26, 2009 when 143 Russian engineers, designers and consultants – all participants in the project – attended the boomer’s launch ceremony at Visakhapatnam on the east coast.




Yet the inferior indians still find a way to "laugh" at China's nuclear submarines.

Post it in the Indian military thread. It is more suitable there. Post is quite educative btw.

 

[siegecrossbow]

The tea is better in China than it is in Pakistan. This is partly why Modi doesn't dare challenge China's narrative because China has all the evidence it needs to defend itself from allegations. They've immediately stopped with the "PLA beat us up with nail studded clubs" line or the "PLA attacked us!".

Officially they have. Unofficially they are making Galwan clash Bollywood flicks.

 

[ougoah]

Officially they have. Unofficially they are making Galwan clash Bollywood flicks.

They are the most hopeless losers around.

They can't win in real life and in the real world so they use language to soothe their egos. Calling others porkis, chinkis, monkeys etc etc meanwhile has 50% of population defecating in the open.

India is a nation of zero shame. Filled with liars and propagandists but will not recognise their own reality and will only ever focus on the worst of others and the best of themselves. Even in these grand delusions of theirs they still have to exaggerate and make up why others are bad and why they are so "superior". Jai !!! Hindi !!!

I'm always filled with disgust at how these "people" celebrate misery and pain when it happens to their "enemies". The way they make outrageous proclamations. They are so lucky the west is engaged in war with China and do not bother to attack them at all. When the day comes, I hope all their hate and evils are returned to them 100 fold. China itself can barely be bothered engaging India at the shit flinging. Indians are honestly simply too good at talking shit and lying. Chinese are simply too busy making progress and fighting off western propaganda.