Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[bajingan]

There are too many disinformation on coronavirus by the west, they keep yapping about Wuhan lab leak, bioweapon, while there are massive question mark on fort derrick
It hurts the credibility of mRna vaccine in my eyes, therefore the risk of taking any pzifer, moderna, az vaccines far outweights the benefits, the side effects will only be felt decades later
Personally i would avoid those vaccines like the plague (the irony) lol

 

[supersnoop]

Interesting. My experience not only includes the people you mentioned but also includes relatively recent Chinese immigrants. As a matter of fact, the hanjians who spread their bs on Weibo and Wechat mainly consist of those people. That is why I mentioned the green card status symbol. These same people spread fake news about Covid being manufactured by the CPC and anti vaccine information like a fire in California’s forests. Plus they are born in the 60’s and 70’s, so they most likely taught the second and third gen’s their perspectives of the CPC and the West. So I would argue that the anti China crowd consists of the people you mentioned AND the older gen’s, along with the people I mentioned above.

Probably also depends on geography, you are from the US right?

There are way more Taiwanese and KMT descendants in the US, probably skews things a bit.

 

[LawLeadsToPeace]

Probably also depends on geography, you are from the US right?

There are way more Taiwanese and KMT descendants in the US, probably skews things a bit.

Good point. Back in the 80's, 90's, and early 2000's, a lot of KMT descendants lived in the US and intermingled with the mainlanders, who were susceptible to Western worship and tbh poorer than those descendants and Taiwanese people.

 

[Phead128]

The Chinese media should learn a bit of mental gymnastics from the western MSM.

"Sharp rise in UK covid cases cast doubt on the effectiveness of western vaccines with the number of cases rising back to since early February at a time when the whole population was unvaccinated "

EXACTLY.

UK is facing SURGES but no Western media is doubting AstraZeneca vaccine efficacy.

SO HYPOCRITICAL.

Plus, surges can happen if herd immunity is not reached, which is true for ALL nations basically. What a bunch of idiots.

 

[Temstar]

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Stats on vaccine performance from Mongolian CDC, here's the table translated into Chinese:

Overall after 2 shots Sinopharm is performing the best, although the other vaccines are not far behind either except...

Note the Indian produced AZ and compare that against UK produced AZ. The Indian AZ vaccine seems to be dramatically worse.

 

[vincent]

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Stats on vaccine performance from Mongolian CDC, here's the table translated into Chinese:
View attachment 73786
Overall after 2 shots Sinopharm is performing the best, although the other vaccines are not far behind either except...

Note the Indian produced AZ and compare that against UK produced AZ. The Indian AZ vaccine seems to be dramatically worse.

The Indian version of AZ vaccine probably has much higher error rates in the mRNA strand

 

[Godzilla]

The Indian version of AZ vaccine probably has much higher error rates in the mRNA strand

Didn't think AZ vaccine is mRNA but more of that viral vector thing?

 

[emblem21]

EXACTLY.

UK is facing SURGES but no Western media is doubting AstraZeneca vaccine efficacy.

SO HYPOCRITICAL.

Plus, surges can happen if herd immunity is not reached, which is true for ALL nations basically. What a bunch of idiots.

Again, not enough dead to actually move these people to reason. It’s going to require the uk to go through the same hell as India for them to realise maybe they need to consider that maybe what they are doing isn’t correct and sadly enough to literally have the dead pile up in the streets to maybe get the government make a plea for help but by that point, not only will that be far too late but the world would be in there best interest to completely isolate the nation for good. The UK had resources, heck maybe even assistance from Russia and China if they could only negotiate things carefully but no, they choose to make the situation to the point where it would be in the best interest for both nations to sever ties instead to avoid the spread of both the virus and stupidity that the government in the UK has sadly made it a case of being a terminal disease.

 

[LawLeadsToPeace]

Didn't think AZ vaccine is mRNA but more of that viral vector thing?

It is the adenovirus approach, which basically encapsulates the DNA within an adenovirus. In AZ’s case, it’s a virus from a monkey.

 

[supercat]

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Stats on vaccine performance from Mongolian CDC, here's the table translated into Chinese:
View attachment 73786
Overall after 2 shots Sinopharm is performing the best, although the other vaccines are not far behind either except...

Note the Indian produced AZ and compare that against UK produced AZ. The Indian AZ vaccine seems to be dramatically worse.

This is a significant table. It pretty much blows western media's negative narrative against Chinese vaccines out of water.

Here is a brief translation:
E7: number of vaccinated with 2 shots, F7: number of infected after 2 jabs, G7: percentage of infected after 2 jabs
A7: AZ jab,
A8: Pfizer jab
A9: AZ (Made in India)
A10: China's jab 621,699 2724 0.44%
A11: Russia's jab

So 621,699 finished 2 shots with Chinese vaccines. Only 2724, or 0.44% of these contracted COVID-19.

Here is virologist Kristian Anderson's take on the natural origin of SARS-CoV-2. Pay special attention to the discussion about furin cleavage sites:

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