solarz
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And what exactly will that achieve?
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And what exactly will that achieve?
You know, I never figured that out either.
In general, we have seen many of such "reasoning" always from the west.
How they try to convince that they won this round, without having any real result.
My theory is they are trying to accomplish maybe a couple of things.
1. That is the bamboozle the masses, so the people in charge continue to get away with pulling shit. Wall Street and main street is the prefect example. It is kind of like using George Orwell tactics to get rich.
That is why the Americans are always very interesting to watch. They took Orwell's teaching to maintain control, but American ingenuity added a wrinkle which is the get rich and use that money to influence others (people or countries) to solidify that original political and thought control.
2. The other possibility is to feel good about themselves.
Chinese people find this phrase alien. What does to feel good about themselves actually mean? Chinese people always feel good about themselves. But some Chinese people, do not feel good about themselves, it is more like they feel indifference about themselves. If you already indifferent about yourself, well, that person has no use to feel good about themself. They already reached a separate level of understanding.
I think a lot of the propaganda is to feel good about themselves for the masses in the western world. But, I cannot be totally sure.
I feel kind of indifferent to it.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
I would not ascribe any deep thinking or long term strategy to current rabid American and western attacks beyond them trying to fuck with China any which way they think they can.
This is an area where I think Chinese strategists sometimes gets it wrong when they show their American counterparts too much respect trying to puzzle out some amazing 4D chess move when the Americans are just mindlessly flinging shit all over the place and hoping some of it sticks.
There is also the added element to consider that the west or America is not one unified whole, but a whole nest of vipers all competing and jostling with each other for primacy. A lot of the time these shadow dealings are done behind closed doors, but other times they are done out in the public, with certain factions trying to change things on the ground and make that the new reality.
What China is doing is rather than trying to fend off every attack and end up punch drunk trying, it is only focusing on countering things that would fundamentally cross its red lines.
It is letting everything else slide because it really doesn’t have the energy or time to play that game, because while such court intrigue media passing contests might be what western politicians do 24/7, Chinese leaders actually have their day job of running the country to consider first and foremost.
By focusing on delivering actual tangible real world results, what China is doing is growing its comprehensive national economic and military power while Americans piss away their lead and continue to live off of the achievements of better generations. Soon China won’t need to play petty media games with America, or put up with their salami slicing. Because China can and will go kinetic in response, and win. which beats all the BS propaganda lies American MSM could ever spew out.
Somehow this might be the end result where the west gets to experience some real pain for the first time in centuries. I wonder if this is the end times they fear so much since their a massive rise in the nation of people in the USA prophecising this message
Well it would be good if you could answer my question on whether Singapore is looking to approve Russian vaccines and whether the people there are interested in Russian vaccines.
From my experience, many people there intentionally are proud of their poor command of Chinese as an indicator of (Westernized) upper class status. Rather like Hong Kong.
Singapore is similar to Switzerland when declaring political neutrality in that, well, it isn't really neutrality if you look closely. They certainly aren't fond of Russia.
I hazard a guess that the pro China folks are older like @Hendrik_2000 because the younger people I interact with in Taiwan, HK, and Singapore, only like 10% of them are pro China. Of course there are way more old Taiwanese HKers Singaporeans fond of China than young ones because of the generation gap (more Chinese style education for people who grew up in the 70s or so).
Anyway I apologize if it sounds like a rant.
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antiterror13
Brigadier
Is it your opinion or Singaporean in general ?. I know a lot of Singaporeans that already taken Chinese vaccine without any complains. I can't say on behalf of all Singaporeans, but it is the fact. Most Chinese Indonesian already taken Sinovac without any complains either and they are happy taking them .. even queuing. Chinese Indonesian is as picky as Singaporeans if not pickier
Perhaps you are talking about super rich Singaporean and Westerners who live there
?? I read in the news the country just provided access to Chinese vaccines only a few days ago. Me wonders if I need glasses or something. What if I'm actually the stereotypical ignorant hillbilly.
antiterror13
Brigadier
Who live in Indonesia
You mean Singaporeans living in Indonesia then. Is that a large group of people?