The Q-5, J-7, J-8 and older PLAAF aircraft

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Çin eski uçakları insansız yapmayı planlıyordu. Doğru mu?What is the project?
 

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Can anyone help me out again with finding a source and even more a location!

Found at the CDF posted by @xinhui only with the comment:

Good bye after 27/8 years

告别“战友”:机场搬迁,七爷也送给其他部队了 ... 七爷 = old grandpa 7


Can anyone help with a correct translation? As usually again no base is named but IMO it looks very much like a PLAAF Flight Academy? Could it be from the Shijiazhuang FA since we've just seen the new J-10A/AS for this training brigade?

Thanks a lot.

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tupolevtu144

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Can anyone help me out again with finding a source and even more a location!

Found at the CDF posted by @xinhui only with the comment:



Can anyone help with a correct translation? Based on an online translator it sounds like Qihe even if my translator mentions Qi Ye.

But both makes no sense; Qihe is home of the 34th Air Brigade flying J-10A/AS and not JJ-7 and a base named Qi Ye I don't know.
IMO it looks very much like a PLAAF Flight Academy?

Thanks a lot.

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"Farewell to comrades: As ? is moving to a new airport, the J-7s are going to be handed to other regiments."

In Mandarin, "Ye" is sometimes used similarly to the Japanese "san"(a respectful way to refer to a male superior), so "Qi" - "7" and "Ye" - "san" put together "Qi-Ye" means 7-san, basically a respectful way to refer to their old J-7 aircraft.
 

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"Farewell to comrades": As ? is moving to a new airport, the J-7s are going to be handed to other regiments.


Indeed, but no unit nor location is mentioned and since these are only JJ-7 trainers I assume it is one training brigade withing one of the Flight Academies ... Could it be from the Shijiazhuang FA since we've just seen the new J-10A/AS for this training brigade?
 

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Indeed, but no unit nor location is mentioned and since these are only JJ-7 trainers I assume it is one training brigade withing one of the Flight Academies ... Could it be from the Shijiazhuang FA since we've just seen the new J-10A/AS for this training brigade?


I was right!

This base is Xuzhou and as it seems, it was no longer home of the 94th AR (Brigade?) but of the 2nd Training Brigade under the Shijiazhuang Flight Academy, which will just get J-10A/AS soon.



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An interesting story written by Thomas Newdick / @CombatAir on Twitter from a time that some in the USA would like to ignore ... but even more interesting are rumours that even F-16s were planned and that Grumman should help develop a completely new fighter for the PLAAF.

And yes, Tiananmen ended all of this, but what else would have been delivered by the US or how far would the cooperation have progressed if it didn't happen?

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An interesting story written by Thomas Newdick / @CombatAir on Twitter from a time that some in the USA would like to ignore ... but even more interesting are rumours that even F-16s were planned and that Grumman should help develop a completely new fighter for the PLAAF.

And yes, Tiananmen ended all of this, but what else would have been delivered by the US or how far would the cooperation have progressed if it didn't happen?

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Had F-16 J79 panned out we might not see J-10 in PLAAF today, with the niche filled by WS-10 equipped F-16 using domestic AESA and possibly DSI inlets. Things would get very, very confusing in the Taiwan straits.
 

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Had F-16 J79 panned out we might not see J-10 in PLAAF today, with the niche filled by WS-10 equipped F-16 using domestic AESA and possibly DSI inlets. Things would get very, very confusing in the Taiwan straits.

Indeed, but even more I am interested in these rumours concerning a clean sheet design of a fighter that has been suggested by Grumman as a successor for the J-8 at a later stage ...
 

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Indeed, but even more I am interested in these rumours concerning a clean sheet design of a fighter that has been suggested by Grumman as a successor for the J-8 at a later stage ...

They might’ve gone the Super Saber approach and assisted with J-13 development. Had that happened, J-10 and F-16 J-79 would both be redundant.
 

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They might’ve gone the Super Saber approach and assisted with J-13 development. Had that happened, J-10 and F-16 J-79 would both be redundant.

Yes, but according to the rumours I‘m referring to, the Sabre II - aka a Super-7 as a J-7PLUS - was run in parallel to the J-8II Peace Pearl avionics update And this secret idea for a new fighter was aimed for a later date after these two. Even more the J-13 was long dead and I don‘t think that a warmed up J-13 even with US engines would be what the PLAAF wanted and what Grumman offered.
 
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