Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

[bettydice]

Anyway, you're missing the point. The Chinese "boycott" was short-lived. Even before Xi became President, Japanese car sales recovered.

As I said, situations and foreign relationships change. Japan isn't always 100% anti-China, doesn't always do as what the US orders and tries to balance itself somwhere between the US and China. Plus what's different from the recent boycotts against some foreign companies is that it wasn't the Japanese car makers that were to blame. Short-lived so what? I see no reason why the boycott on Japanese cars should be permenant.

The current South Korean government is more pro-China than Japan's is. For a start it refused sales of the T-50 to Taiwan, which originally Taipei wanted as a trainer. Whereas Japan is providing technical assistance for Taiwan building its own submarines. Japan also has a greater depth of governmental relations with Taiwan compared to South Korea.

That's a huge difference on foreign policy on what the CCP repeatedly says is a core political matter.

Nonetheless, THAAD was already deployed, measures needed to be taken. The deployment of THAAD is a more significant threat than what you mentioned on some Japan's relations with Taiwan.

That's a point of convenience for those manufacturers. I don't think it's a reason people buy those cars - cars made in Japan were also popular.

That's your opinion. There is a wide spectrum of popular on a huge market. What I meant wasn't about just cars themselves, it's more about general trust on the company.

See above. Sales of Japanese cars have been consistently good and were good before the subsidies.

They recovered after the anti-Japan sentiment calmed down. Toyota started local production of hybrid cars in China and lowered the prices long time ago.

Isn't this rather the point? That Chinese people buy what they think are reliable, good quality items. Therefore, contrary to what emblem suggested, it's not straightforward just to replicate a foreign brand, say it's Chinese and then expect people to change their shopping habits.

Chinese brands don't just replicate foreign brands, and acceptance and popularity of Chinese brands are already significant and fast growing. Many Chinese brands make reliable, good quality items and Chinese people think so.

 

[KYli]

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[daifo]

That was pretty good!

How come I got this sneaking suspicion that was that guy Carl Zha in that disguise?

I am kind of convinced of that.

That guy is an American that don't want to be dox or mysteriously charge with "tax" related issues

 

[siegecrossbow]

THE YEAR before he died in 2017, one of America’s leading twentieth-century strategic thinkers, Zbigniew Brzezinski, sounded an alarm. In analyzing threats to American security, “the most dangerous scenario,” he warned, would be “a grand coalition of China and Russia…united not by ideology but by complementary grievances.” This coalition “would be reminiscent in scale and scope of the challenge once posed by the Sino-Soviet bloc, though this time China would likely be the leader and Russia the follower.”

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The die is cast. What’s next?

 

[horse]

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The die is cast. What’s next?

Just my opinion, but as per the usual, they got it all wrong again.

The point is rather basic, a multi-polar world.

That could happen only when there are enough power centers independent of one another.

Iran-Russia-China - this is not an alliance.

Iran-Russia-China - however they are all the same, as each in its own right the most important power center in that neighbourhood.

Iran-Russia-China - helping each other out and coordinating policies, will increase their own power in their neighbourhood.

It is too late to stop this. From now on, Iran or Russia or China, their power can only grow.

I got no idea why the Americans stress all these alliances. What purpose will it serve here?

The Americans stressing their alliance system cannot be more wrong headed. It is like they are saying alliances worked in the past, they will work in the future. That is more like living in the past.

 

[B.I.B.]

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Looks like american most loyal vassal, the convict colony, have started to begrudgingly realize that they are on the losing side lol

With so many sex scandals within Morrisons party resulting in calls for the sacking of the offending MP's, and because some MP's are on leave, Morrisson will not have the numbers to run a government.
A recent poll has shown while Morrissons personal popularity remains high, he will loose if a general election was held.

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[Team Blue]

Just my opinion, but as per the usual, they got it all wrong again.

The point is rather basic, a multi-polar world.

That could happen only when there are enough power centers independent of one another.

Iran-Russia-China - this is not an alliance.

Iran-Russia-China - however they are all the same, as each in its own right the most important power center in that neighbourhood.

Iran-Russia-China - helping each other out and coordinating policies, will increase their own power in their neighbourhood.

It is too late to stop this. From now on, Iran or Russia or China, their power can only grow.

I got no idea why the Americans stress all these alliances. What purpose will it serve here?

The Americans stressing their alliance system cannot be more wrong headed. It is like they are saying alliances worked in the past, they will work in the future. That is more like living in the past.

Americans see China inevitably heading towards being an equivalent if not greater power which after decades of nearly unopposed hegemony understandably worries some people.

I do think fighting it is dumb. IMO they should be working with countries instead of antagonizing them. The world would be a better place if they were sharing knowledge and competing fairly.

 

[emblem21]

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Maybe blinked should have stfu and stop antagonising everyone around the world and present the USA as a liability to the world that is simply better of gone

 

[solarz]

Maybe blinked should have stfu and stop antagonising everyone around the world and present the USA as a liability to the world that is simply better of gone

As the old saying goes, it's often better to stay quiet and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

 

[Phead128]

Just my opinion, but as per the usual, they got it all wrong again.

The point is rather basic, a multi-polar world.

That could happen only when there are enough power centers independent of one another.

Iran-Russia-China - this is not an alliance.

Iran-Russia-China - however they are all the same, as each in its own right the most important power center in that neighbourhood.

Iran-Russia-China - helping each other out and coordinating policies, will increase their own power in their neighbourhood.

It is too late to stop this. From now on, Iran or Russia or China, their power can only grow.

I got no idea why the Americans stress all these alliances. What purpose will it serve here?

The Americans stressing their alliance system cannot be more wrong headed. It is like they are saying alliances worked in the past, they will work in the future. That is more like living in the past.

I got perm banned from /r/Sino for being against the China-Russia formal alliance. Which is totally ridiculous given I'm one of the biggest pro-China posters there. Overzealous power-tripping mods for you.

The current China-Russia relationship is great, forming an alliance only drags China into Eastern Europe/Middle East mess, and Russia's singular carrier can't even reach South China Sea or Taiwan straits to be any help.