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emblem21

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"US isnt ready to lift China tariffs"
Translation:
US isn't ready to let its people recover, so we need to neogtiate with China to save some face
I swear sooner or later the people of the USA are going to riot like it is 1999 (no in the party sense, but in a more crazy and darker sense in case you are confused) when the costs of goods shoot up to heaven, because the government is still trying to wage a piss fight with a nation that has always been kind enough not to encourage the pissing match but only did so when the retardation of the USA has finally gotten so stupid that it has not one but two brat leaders that cannot seem to see the obvious that even a high school kid could see, I mean the latest one is in danger of losing his mental faculties and it isn't even 3 months into the bloody term. What gives, does that mean that I could be president if I go 'lol China bad' 'USA number one' while wearing a USA flag on my boxers while making speeches about the size of my dong, because this is how low things are really getting now with no one in the USA being capable of working out whether its more important to save the people or make a little bit more money. This cannot be that hard of a choice to make but I swear the USA has literally lost all ability to emphasis with others on a normal level, which is what little children killing there parents because there idiot parents left the gun in the back seat of a car. Really it would be for the best of humanity if a super disaster finally goes off because I believe that this nation is making people become retarded with there fox news and general circus acts
 

Temstar

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Latest 观棋有语 has some interesting discussions about so called wolf warrior diplomacy as well as the EU/UK sanctions.
  • with regards to the boycott, if companies take a two faced approach where they don't use Xinjiang cotton in foreign countries but do not engage in that sort of behaviour in China, that would be considered acceptable. A few Japanese companies have already taken this position (Muji comes to mind for me)
  • this wave of trouble with Xinjing is obviously an attempt at driving a wedge between China and the Islamic World. Mr Su says as far as he can see, the plan is linear with Step A, Step B, Step C all the way up to something like Step G. For some reason they've designed it so each subsequent step depends on the success of an earlier step, much like say Operation Market Garden. Currently they are on Step C and unfortunately for them, "XXX Corps" of this story has been stop dead in its track by China and there doesn't seem like there's any possibility go do a jump from Step B to Step D
  • Mr Su says the problem with the plan is that it's already difficult for westerners to go to the Islamic World and spread negative rumours about China, while at the same time if China where to counterattack and speak negatively about Israel and its big brother (interesting they mention Israel out of blue here isn't it) to Muslims it would be readily accepted. At this point Mr Yang says he had indeed tried this in front of Hezbollah while he was there and as soon as the world "America" is mentioned they get very excited
  • there's up to 10,000 Uyghur jihadist in Idlib, China has warned Turkey that at this time if they were to attempt a new wave of Pan-Turkism or cause back flow of terrorists into China then there would be consequences. Particularly China pointed out the performance of CASC Rainbow series of UCAVs in Saudi hands as a hint
  • it's not politically correct for Erdogan to completely end his support of Pan-Turkism, so understandably Turkey's comment towards China when Wang Yi was there was not as clear as say from the Saudi, however in the current state that Turkey find itself in it's in no condition to make any concrete contribution towards Pan-Turkism. Saudi Arabia and Iran have anywhere between zero to negative interest in Pan-Turkism.
  • Mr Su recalls what he saw of how Turkey actually engages in support for Pan-Turkism in China. The would take TV shows in Turkey, translate them into ethnic language and then hand out the CDs for free in China. At first the CDs were completely innocent, then they would add an extra introduction saying "we're all one family" and "we welcome long lost relatives to come to visit Turkey". With passage of time the message in the CDs would get more and more seditious until you start to see old man with white beard and golden halo behind him saying things that would be in direct violation of national security. Then once China tighten security at the border Turkey went so far as to officially issue counterfeit passports.
  • on the matter of UK sanction (UK is Mr Su's speciality due to past work), Mr Su says one of the person on the sanction list earns two sets of incomes, with the main incoming coming from a certain organisation with a funny looking building on the Thames. He would prefer not to mention the name directly as it's considered unprofessional in his line of work. Xi Yazhou says "you mean that organisation from a certain line of action movies filmed by Hollywood but about UK and with a numerical number in its title?" and Mr Su said yes that one. This individual previously often travelled to Hong Kong SAR and made contact with various people and made offers like "we would like result X, how much money do you want for that?"
  • the inclusion of this this British individual on the sanction list is a clear sign to EU that China considers UK to be more troublesome, the EU sanction on the other hand is more symbolic. Mr Su says EU would actually be happy to see UK being hit harder by the sanctions. This British individual have also made contact with oppositions in Russia and assorted other "Freedom Fighters" around the world, he seem to enjoy being the money in these sort of situation
  • this UK sanction is actually having more of an effect, the British individual from a certain organisation along with a few others on the list earn most of their income from matters to do with China. Once banned from entering China would essentially be unemployed. The sanction would also have an deterrent effect on other individuals engaged in similar line of work but not yet on the sanction list
  • UK is still mostly interested in Hong Kong and not Xinjiang, US is the one that's mostly interested in Xinjiang
 
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Bellum_Romanum

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There's footage out there of the carjacking and the murder, showing once again the lawlessness of the US.

I think i know how US society functions now; the US as we all know is a white anglo dominated caste system with whites at the top; the police and the military are ostensibly there to protect white interests; those outside the moat of protection are left to their own devices, meaning immigrant asian groups are prey to criminal elements. We saw this during the Rodney King riots when the police were only protecting white neighbourhoods and businesses and left Asians like the famous rooftop koreans to fend for themselves.

Non whites can become a part of the white class as servants of the white class as we saw with obama, the current SECDEF and Kiron "we need an all of society race war against China" Skinner. We even see this with many asian americans who support and cover for the racist system of apartheid in the US. I could write an entire book about this, but these are just some thoughts.
 

solarz

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Like I mentioned before I served in the US military myself, 8 years USMC multiple tours to both Iraq and Afghanistan. Looking back I fought for the wrong side and would join the PLA if I were able to. However, I dont regret it at all because my service benefitted me financially and I have first hand knowledge of TTPs. "Know the enemy and know yourself..."

That's interesting, I wouldn't have expected someone who has gone through military indoctrination to feel the way you do.

Do you feel this way because you identify as Chinese or because you disagree with those wars?
 

voyager1

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Seem Iranian Foreign Ministry has expressed reluctance to publicise the text of 25Year Strategic Document because they gave discount big oil discount to CN
Lmao these people are so stupid. If they are so disatisfied with selling their oil to China then why they dont try to sell it to other countries?

Maybe because China is the only willing customer to counter US sanctions! China isn't going to suffer to help Iran while not gaining anything.

Either way the choice is , get some money now, or dont get anything. US media already trying to discredit Iran.
Iran should go and arrest any traitors inside their country
 

ansy1968

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Lmao these people are so stupid. If they are so disatisfied with selling their oil to China then why they dont try to sell it to other countries?

Maybe because China is the only willing customer to counter US sanctions! China isn't going to suffer to help Iran while not gaining anything.

Either way the choice is , get some money now, or dont get anything. US media already trying to discredit Iran.
Iran should go and arrest any traitors inside their country
Bro the trouble China got for helping Iran, they should be grateful and its all propaganda. The Atlanticist is salivating to get their hands on Iranian resources and this 25 year deal is a major setback for them.
 

siegecrossbow

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Unlikely there was any fixed prices discussed and no need be gullible and entertain speculative tweets. The agreement is a framework and unlikely to touch upon the finer details. 25 years is a long time to commit after one meeting.

Already gullible people falls into believing manipulative idiotic tweets when details are not yet finalized.

Sure discount are to be expected in such a large long term deal and Iran has a weak hand in current buyer market environment.

From Jin Canrong's Weibo:
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Per reports from Iran, this 25 year strategic cooperation agreement mainly focuses on political, economic and energy cooperation, the three main details are:

1. China will increase energy and civil infrastructure development, with the aim of overall increase of Iran's national strength
2. Oil trade between Iran and China will be conducted with RMB and digital RMB, USD will be avoided
3. Iranian missiles (not clear cruise missile or ballistic missile) guidance system will make use of Beidou GNSS
 
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